natural selection weeds out the weak (of mind). thinning of the herd. Cutting the fat.
I wish the antivaxxers would change but many are only changing their minds on their death bed....and asking for vaccine but when too late

 

Darwinism at work Danny.

i was reading today that they want vaccinated people to wear masks indoors and maybe even outdoors in heavy Delta transmission areas because they can still spread it, even though they will get mildly sick it could be very severe to non vaccinated people ........

....... i think you can see where i'm going with this without actually saying it ......

 

See below stats re: COVID and vaccines. Doesn't this end the debate?

 

Case of Israel and Iceland should be looked at closely .....! Trust the science !

https://www.icelandreview.com/ask-ir...19-in-iceland/

 

At the outset let me state that I have both my C19 Pfizer spikes to go along with my 11 other vaxs and this excludes annual flu shots for the last 26 years. Variants and needing full vax to ski race this winter closed the deal for me. However, the C19 vaxs have only received provisional emergency approval. None have undergone the 8 year test cycle normally required and are not fully approved. Astrazeneka has never been approved in the US so there's no way it was going into my arm. The risk of an eventual unsavory outcome may be low but I wouldn't dismiss the qualified anti-vaxers out of hand. And if any of you develop a taste for human flesh, might I suggest a leap off the Leaside Bridge.

 

It's amusing all the anti-vax ignorance out there.
I see people daily who would never put a vaccine in their body to save their life, but they are demanding their botulinum toxin in their face to smooth wrinkles. The irony.
And if you think that doesn't apply to you, well if you're married boys, your wives are getting cosmetic treatments on a regular basis whether you know about it or not that are hundreds of times more dangerous than a vaccine ever could be.

 

I'll just leave my .02 here... I'm not an "anti-vaxxer" per say, but I haven't had any shots yet and neither has my wife. We also don't get the flu shot every year. We haven't missed a day of work yet. I don't disagree with vaccines, all our children have received all the necessary shots to go to school etc.

My biggest concerns are:

A- All these existing vaccines we take have been tested for many years prior to them becoming regularly used and recommended.... Covid vaccine...what testing...what long terms effects?...anything? Just the government ads everywhere to make sure you get poked lol

B- There are lots of people out there that have had adverse effects the getting the shots, you just don't hear about it on the news because that doesn't fit in the the current political agenda.

I will happily get vaccinated....after I see what it does to the rest of you first lol.


Good luck everyone!

 

When the next wave hits and everything has to shut down again and Trudeau again starts handing out money (not to mention the unnecessary burden on the healthcare system and increase in taxes, never mind deaths), we'll have you - the anti-vaxxers - to thank. Let that sink in for a moment.

Can't wait for the politicos to see the light at the end of the tunnel and mandate vaccine passports. Not being vaccinated is your right... just make sure that you stay confined at home for the foreseeable future.

 

If you wait 7-8 years to see vaccine long term effects, you won’t really need the vaccine then.

Pandemic will be over.

Most likely endemic and yearly shot will be required.

You probably would have caught COVID already unless you stayed isolated for 7-8 years.

If you are lucky, your symptoms were mild. At the other end of the spectrum, you never left the ICU alive. Where you end up on this spectrum is anyone’s guess. Life’s lottery.

 

Ok so help me understand then why do we allow people to smoke, be obese, Drink? All things that are not healthy for you and put a burden on our healthcare system? What is the difference? Drugs are bad...yet instead of getting rid of Meth our government gives it out for free (Methodone clinics anyone?)


What happened to "my body my choice"? Or is that only applicable when you are murdering another human being that is living inside you?


When was the last time Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson and Johnson ever produced a current vaccine that we actually use?

 

None of those things are contagious! Did that help you understand?

 

Let me try and clarify your choice here because I think you and many others, who aren't rabid anti vaxxers are making foolish uninformed decisions.
As far as testing, exactly what are you looking for?
Do you know how many people they studied for the polio vaccine? One of the largest studies ever and I haven't heard anyone complain about that study. 650k received the vaccine and 1.2m did not. For the COVID-19 vaccines, about 600k per day are being administered in the USA alone and over 3billuon worldwide so far.
OR are you looking to just wait the prescribed 10 years and then look at results?
I also hear the complaint that the shots are only approved on an emergency basis by the CDC and that should disqualify them implying that full approval is required for them to take the shots. Ok, so then you believe that what the CDC does is good. Well ok then, how about you actually take their advice and read their information. The irony is thick here. Some people want to discredit the CDC while at the same time holding them up as the standard for how things should be done. Nonsensical.

Adverse events, where are you getting your information? Is this all online reading, which is always a trustworthy source. Or do you check out the CDC for updates and information whose job it is to monitor this kind of stuff. Now if you say the CDC is not to be trusted then fine, you cannot be reasoned with because of a conspiracy mindset. There are lots of those people out there.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...se-events.html

If you prefer personal stories that touch the heart. I've had both my shots and I feel great Little bit of flu like symptoms after the second one, and that is how these vaccines are designed so it's a good response. No second ear here.
And for those who love to boast about healthy they are and how robust their immune system is although I'm not aware of any test for the latter, if you have any kind of medical condition, you are at higher risk for hospitalization and death according to the numbers. And that super strong immune system? Well, what you really want is a goldilocks response to covid, not too little, not too much. Too much of a response lands you in the ICU with scarred lungs for life or worse death. It's a crap shoot, you can't know if you'll be the unlucky sob who has major issues. Some people like to gamble with their lives, not me.

 

So, I have my vaccines, and would experiment on my children when the time comes for them to get it, but have a different view about public policy and lockdowns:

The last 16 months have been great for the CEO, management and all the high skilled workers on their laptops at home. It has been less good for the janitor.

Their economic situation isn't as rosy as ours, and health outcomes are tied to economic status. The pandemic has disproportionately hit low income and new Canadians. They are also less likely to trust in traditional medicine.

They are also more dependant on government services, the services that will inevitably be cut to service our CERB debt.

The increased mortality rate among these groups in the coming decade will likely outstrip the Covid deaths.

It is their children among the missing cohort in our schools. They never signed up for on line learning. Some of them will never return to school, and they were the ones who needed it the most.

So by letting doctors set public policy, we have chosen today over tomorrow. But they always prioritize the acute over the chronic, that is how they were trained.

And it is why they shouldn't be allowed to set public policy.

 

The difference is you are putting others at risk. If you become a fat slob and blow up your heart, it's your problem. If you are an unvaccinated superspreader, it's our problem.

 

Actually fat slobs have weak immune system and do put others at risk by easily getting infected and need to be on a ventilator.

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obe...-covid-19.html

Adults with excess weight are at even greater risk during the COVID-19 pandemic:

• Having obesity increases the risk of severe illness from COVID-19. People who are overweight may also be at increased risk.
• Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection.
• Obesity is linked to impaired immune function.2,3
• Obesity decreases lung capacity and reserve and can make ventilation more difficult.4
• A study of COVID-19 cases suggests that risks of hospitalization, intensive care unit admission, invasive mechanical ventilation, and death are higher with increasing BMI.5
  • The increased risk for hospitalization or death was particularly pronounced in those under age 65. 5
• More than 900,000 adult COVID-19 hospitalizations occurred in the United States between the beginning of the pandemic and November 18, 2020. Models estimate that 271,800 (30.2%) of these hospitalizations were attributed to obesity.6