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Old 02-26-2012, 05:03 PM
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Jump to the NASA forum to follow this.

We will give NASA updated rules to be posted at the NASA forums for all to see.

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=55160
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but have been watching carefully. Even if you can add aero similar to the M3s, you'll still need a new chip to flatten your curves (area under the curve = acceleration), and you will need to spend serious $$$$$ on motorsports-level Motons or JRZs or equivalent if you want any hope of running up front. Then plan on a set of A6s for qualifying and a set of R6s per weekend.

Someone with some political clout needs to call Chris Cobetto directly and get this fixed.
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Originally Posted by dbryant61
I don't have a dog in this fight, but have been watching carefully. Even if you can add aero similar to the M3s, you'll still need a new chip to flatten your curves (area under the curve = acceleration), and you will need to spend serious $$$$$ on motorsports-level Motons or JRZs or equivalent if you want any hope of running up front. Then plan on a set of A6s for qualifying and a set of R6s per weekend.

Someone with some political clout needs to call Chris Cobetto directly and get this fixed.
I destroyed the BMW's in my old 911 with my torsion bar suspension and no aero at Summit point. It's all about driver if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by good hands
I destroyed the BMW's in my old 911 with my torsion bar suspension and no aero at Summit point. It's all about driver if you ask me.
Did a little research Scott. Best time I can find for you is 1:25.2, which is really quick for an E-class car, but I found several GTS-2s in the low 1:24s, and I think you'd consider that your home track. Correct me if I'm wrong. That said, do you think a car built for SpecBoxster can be competitive against Jason Christ, Wonger, or Jim Khoury's cars by just adding R6s and a wing?
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Originally Posted by dbryant61
Did a little research Scott. Best time I can find for you is 1:25.2, which is really quick for an E-class car, but I found several GTS-2s in the low 1:24s, and I think you'd consider that your home track. Correct me if I'm wrong. That said, do you think a car built for SpecBoxster can be competitive against Jason Christ, Wonger, or Jim Khoury's cars by just adding R6s and a wing?
Summit PCA race he got a 1:24.027
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OK, so Summit Point does not make my point. The GTS-2 lap record at VIR full is a 2:09, I believe. I think that number will be very difficult to get to without spending a lot more money than a normal SPB build. I think the focus should be on fixing the problem with SPB and NASA so that the cars already built can run and have a well-populated class, similar to SpecE30 and SpecMiata.

The only reason I am chiming in is hopefully to prevent people from spending $5k in wing and spoiler hoping to be competitive in GTS-2, then going out and getting spanked and learning that they need to spend another $20k or more to get into the hunt. Scott Leopold, Tim Costa, and Mark Francis have all run Spec Boxsters in GTS-2. Ask them how competitive they were and what it would take to make their cars competitive.
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Originally Posted by dbryant61
OK, so Summit Point does not make my point. The GTS-2 lap record at VIR full is a 2:09, I believe. I think that number will be very difficult to get to without spending a lot more money than a normal SPB build. I think the focus should be on fixing the problem with SPB and NASA so that the cars already built can run and have a well-populated class, similar to SpecE30 and SpecMiata.

The only reason I am chiming in is hopefully to prevent people from spending $5k in wing and spoiler hoping to be competitive in GTS-2, then going out and getting spanked and learning that they need to spend another $20k or more to get into the hunt. Scott Leopold, Tim Costa, and Mark Francis have all run Spec Boxsters in GTS-2. Ask them how competitive they were and what it would take to make their cars competitive.
All you need to be competive is this ......
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LMAO. I'm taking my ball and going home now. Wait...I'm already home. I'm not playing with you Barbie-Car guys anymore.
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LMAO. I'm taking my ball and going home now. Wait...I'm already home. I'm not playing with you Barbie-Car guys anymore.
Fill this out first: I do agree with you. Against a purpose built GTS car the spec anything will get spanked.
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Draft of NASA 2012 Spec Boxster Rules is posted here..

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic....350359#p350359
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Originally Posted by Paul 996
Draft of NASA 2012 Spec Boxster Rules is posted here..

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic....350359#p350359
GREAT RULES !
EASY TO JUMP FROM PCA TO NASA AND BACK ANYTIME TO MAXIMIZE THE RACERS NEEDS AND $$$$$ WITH THOSE RULES.

Thank you to all that worked on getting it done, especially so quickly.
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At NASA Nationals with 30+ cars, TOYO pays $4000 CASH to the winner, $3000 to 2nd, $2000 to 3rd, $1000 to 4th, $750 to 5th. Now there is some incentive to go to NASA Nationals !

http://www.nasaproracing.com/conting...ency_Info2.pdf
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Great news!
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Well done guys!
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Now we need the SPB class to plan on racing at least a few events with NASA or all this was for nothing

I plan on making it to Summit Point at least 3 times this season.


Nationals maybe in my calendar too. Never been to MO but what could go wrong?


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