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As my corner entry speed has gradually increased, when trail braking into some corners, I've experienced oversteer. In response, I countersteer and apply gentle throttle, but without the desired outcome. The car is a 2011 Carrera GTS. I track it in the Sport Plus mode and have NOT disabled the traction and stability controls. My sense is that I'm not getting much throttle response. Do you think the safety aids are applying braking and also disabling the throttle? I didn't have data acquisition to confirm or refute what I think is happening, but I have Traqmate now. Given the limited information I've provided, any suggestions how to learn to properly drive those turns? Thanks
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The car is a 2011 Carrera GTS. I track it in the Sport Plus mode and do NOT disable the traction and stability controls. My sense is that I'm not getting much throttle response. Do you think the safety aids may be disabling the throttle? I don't have data acquisition to confirm or refute what I think is happening.
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As my corner entry speed has gradually increased, when trail braking into some corners, I've experienced oversteer. In response, I countersteer and apply gentle throttle, but without the desired outcome. The car is a 2011 Carrera GTS. I track it in the Sport Plus mode and have NOT disabled the traction and stability controls. My sense is that I'm not getting much throttle response. Do you think the safety aids are applying braking and also disabling the throttle? I didn't have data acquisition to confirm or refute what I think is happening, but I have Traqmate now. Given the limited information I've provided, any suggestions how to learn to properly drive those turns? Thanks
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This is from autox, but it is a good show of what tire temps do when you are driving. There is some really good warm up lap info in there if you look (sorta) hard http://thinkfastengineering.com/2012/08/solo-heat/
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As my corner entry speed has gradually increased, when trail braking into some corners, I've experienced oversteer. In response, I countersteer and apply gentle throttle, but without the desired outcome. The car is a 2011 Carrera GTS. I track it in the Sport Plus mode and have NOT disabled the traction and stability controls. My sense is that I'm not getting much throttle response. Do you think the safety aids are applying braking and also disabling the throttle? I didn't have data acquisition to confirm or refute what I think is happening, but I have Traqmate now. Given the limited information I've provided, any suggestions how to learn to properly drive those turns? Thanks
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smooth inputs, especially when trail braking, were the key.
off topic: I saw you Saturday at COTA during the pre-race grid walk but couldn't fight my way through the crowd to say hello.
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Aha!
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Is it true that for a 2011 997, PSM in Sport Plus mode does allow for some oversteer before intervening? So leaving traction and stability ON is safe, but also allows driver to gain feel of the car sliding and to develop the proper response.
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I believe so, yes.
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I'd suggest you not test that out in turns 11 and 12 at Barber...ask me how I know
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