View Poll Results: Who will win?
Nico Rosberg
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Vitaly Petrov
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Rubens Barrichello
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Pastor Maldanodo
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Adrian Sutil
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Paul di Resta
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Kamui Kobayashi
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Sergio Perez
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Sebastien Buemi
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Jamie Algersuari
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Jarno Trulli
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Heikki Kovalainen
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Narain Karthikeyen
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Timo Glock
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Jerome d' Ambrosio
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2011 Australian Grand Prix (looks like Bahrain is out)
03-18-2011, 09:41 PM
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Renault has gone through years where their cars were not competitive just like Renault went through years where their car was highly competitive. They are no different than McLaren, Williams and Ferrari who have also experienced highs and lows in the sport.
Alonso is a good driver (too bad he is such a cry baby). But you need to take your "Fernado is the Greatest" blinders off. In 2005 and 2006 Alonso had a very good car. That was a huge influencing reason why he won.
BTW what company supplied Red Bull with their engines when they won the constructors championship in 2010? Could it have been Renault? The same company that supplied Williams with their engines from 1988 through 1997 when Williams had one of the best if not the best car? Of course the engine alone does not make the car, but it seems to me Renault has a history of supplying winning engines in F1. Fernando had a better car and a better engine than you are willing to acknowledge.
Alonso is a good driver (too bad he is such a cry baby). But you need to take your "Fernado is the Greatest" blinders off. In 2005 and 2006 Alonso had a very good car. That was a huge influencing reason why he won.
BTW what company supplied Red Bull with their engines when they won the constructors championship in 2010? Could it have been Renault? The same company that supplied Williams with their engines from 1988 through 1997 when Williams had one of the best if not the best car? Of course the engine alone does not make the car, but it seems to me Renault has a history of supplying winning engines in F1. Fernando had a better car and a better engine than you are willing to acknowledge.
Boss Renault has been in F1 as a constructor since the 70's they had never won a WDC before Alonso ... seen ..
Alonso 2 WDC for Renault is a bigger achievement than winning for Ferrari, because in order to do so he had to beat both Mclaren , Ferrari and there Prima donna's, get it ... ?
PS: Never said Alonso was the Greatest ........ahhh of course it's you..
03-18-2011, 10:21 PM
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03-18-2011, 10:29 PM
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03-19-2011, 02:00 AM
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In 2000 Renault bought the Benetton F1 team and entered the 2002 season as Renault. So if you want to say Alonso has been their only WDC, this is true in name only because Schumacher won for Benetton in '94 and '95 making the hated Schumacher the champ for Benetton/Renault well before Alonso won his two championships.
03-19-2011, 01:28 PM
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Oh brother! Michael Schumacher (Faux 7, Faux 7 Faux 7) legitimately winning an F1 Grand Prix? It has never happen in the past and will never - ever happen in the future.
All of his "wins" were the result of a conspiracies. RB slowing down. The tire manufacturers making a special tire for him and giving everyone else castoffs. The FIA always favors Ferrari. And sooo many more.
Help my out guys! A&W? RAJ? Luis de Prat? - the one who disappeared after that absolutely, unquestionable conspiracy ripped the title right out of Fernanda's manos.
What am I missing? A little help please.
All of his "wins" were the result of a conspiracies. RB slowing down. The tire manufacturers making a special tire for him and giving everyone else castoffs. The FIA always favors Ferrari. And sooo many more.
Help my out guys! A&W? RAJ? Luis de Prat? - the one who disappeared after that absolutely, unquestionable conspiracy ripped the title right out of Fernanda's manos.
What am I missing? A little help please.
03-19-2011, 01:29 PM
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03-19-2011, 01:36 PM
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Is there anyone out there besides myself who thinks all this "Faux Championship" babbling is a little over the top. Good grief people. There are some talented drivers in F1, but winning has always and will always be about who has the best car/team/driver package and who has a little Lady Luck on their side when the cards are on the table. Maybe I am alone here, but of the active drivers still racing, I don't see one driver as a Faux champion and another driver as a Real champion. I see:
Schumacher won 7 times (he would NOT have won 7 had Senna lived)
Alonso won twice
Hamilton won once
Button won once
Vettel won once
and in each of these WDCs, all these guys had awesome cars. Oh and I would love to see the Iceman return to the sport though sometimes it appeared that Kimi just didn't give a damn. May the ghost of Ayrton Senna haunt Kimi Raikkonen for not leaving it all on the table. Oh who am I kidding, Kimi Raikkonen doesn't even care when Senna's ghost haunts him. LOL
Schumacher won 7 times (he would NOT have won 7 had Senna lived)
Alonso won twice
Hamilton won once
Button won once
Vettel won once
and in each of these WDCs, all these guys had awesome cars. Oh and I would love to see the Iceman return to the sport though sometimes it appeared that Kimi just didn't give a damn. May the ghost of Ayrton Senna haunt Kimi Raikkonen for not leaving it all on the table. Oh who am I kidding, Kimi Raikkonen doesn't even care when Senna's ghost haunts him. LOL
03-19-2011, 01:37 PM
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That is an oximoron.
No, I did not call LTC a moron, so please don't write me a ticket, lol.
03-19-2011, 03:09 PM
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Five (5) World Driver's Champions are competing in the 2011 season. I was trying to find out if there is any other time in F1 history when there have been that many WDC drivers competing in the same season
I suspect that the first three races of the season will separate the wheat from the chaff (sp?). I can hardly wait for the season to begin
I suspect that the first three races of the season will separate the wheat from the chaff (sp?). I can hardly wait for the season to begin
03-19-2011, 07:10 PM
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Dead and Boring .....
Looks like Stinky Pete and the amigos have finally succeeded ....
Bernie has to rehab Faux7's career before booting him out at years end , look for some miracle drives and with all the new stuff added , race manipulation will be easy considering how many of you blind nutbags are watching ...
Now Stoolmacher was the laughing stock of the paddock last year, the greatest Hevar bettered by ... ahhh Rosberg .....
Top Stoolmacher excuses :
*Not used to the tires ..................
*Give him more seat time watch Faux 7 roar ...
*Wait until he get's his new chassis................
The Greatest racing driving in the history of the sport could not even get a podium and finished worst than 5th in the WDC rankings all predicted by ...
Well suck it up guys , the new faux1 and the old faux 7 is going to live it up in 2011.. .henjoy ...
Looks like Stinky Pete and the amigos have finally succeeded ....
Bernie has to rehab Faux7's career before booting him out at years end , look for some miracle drives and with all the new stuff added , race manipulation will be easy considering how many of you blind nutbags are watching ...
Now Stoolmacher was the laughing stock of the paddock last year, the greatest Hevar bettered by ... ahhh Rosberg .....
Top Stoolmacher excuses :
*Not used to the tires ..................
*Give him more seat time watch Faux 7 roar ...
*Wait until he get's his new chassis................
The Greatest racing driving in the history of the sport could not even get a podium and finished worst than 5th in the WDC rankings all predicted by ...
Well suck it up guys , the new faux1 and the old faux 7 is going to live it up in 2011.. .henjoy ...
03-19-2011, 07:11 PM
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Let me break it down for yah :
WDC:
Alonso - (2)
Hamilton - (1)
Faux WDC :
Stoolmacher - (7)
Vettel - (1)
Button - (1)
The winner this year will depend on who pay's the vig ( as last year) again there will be an attempt at salvaging what's left of schumachers image, is the stool up to the task ?.... we will see !!!!
WDC:
Alonso - (2)
Hamilton - (1)
Faux WDC :
Stoolmacher - (7)
Vettel - (1)
Button - (1)
The winner this year will depend on who pay's the vig ( as last year) again there will be an attempt at salvaging what's left of schumachers image, is the stool up to the task ?.... we will see !!!!
03-19-2011, 09:10 PM
#74
Wayne, let me see if I can extrapolate as to what it takes, in your mind, win a championship that it isn't a "faux" championship?
- Car that isn't tailored to a particular driver's style
- Beating a tough team mate
- Winning in a car that isn't leaps and bounds above the next best car
- 0 scandals, both publicized stuff and anything else people could think of to throw out there as potential partiality
Please add anything else to the equation if you feel that it's pertinent, but I think that my point will still be the same: How many F1 champions meet all these criteria? Lewis doesn't, Alonso doesn't, in your mind Schumacher doesn't, Senna doesn't.......I think you can see my point.
- Car that isn't tailored to a particular driver's style
- Beating a tough team mate
- Winning in a car that isn't leaps and bounds above the next best car
- 0 scandals, both publicized stuff and anything else people could think of to throw out there as potential partiality
Please add anything else to the equation if you feel that it's pertinent, but I think that my point will still be the same: How many F1 champions meet all these criteria? Lewis doesn't, Alonso doesn't, in your mind Schumacher doesn't, Senna doesn't.......I think you can see my point.