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Nico Rosberg
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Vitaly Petrov
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Rubens Barrichello
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Pastor Maldanodo
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Adrian Sutil
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Paul di Resta
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Kamui Kobayashi
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Sergio Perez
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Sebastien Buemi
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Jamie Algersuari
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Jarno Trulli
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Heikki Kovalainen
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Narain Karthikeyen
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Timo Glock
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Jerome d' Ambrosio
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2011 Australian Grand Prix (looks like Bahrain is out)
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I did see the lap charts where Sergio posted good times, but I was too distracted watching Massa continually drive off of the track. Come Felipe, how I am supposed to cheer for you to beat your teammate when you can't even keep the car on the track. Don't worry though. I am not cheering for Felipe to win the WDC. Just cheering for him to beat his teammate. ![Stick Out Tongue](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
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Too many unknowns still to be answered. I fear this may be a controversial year for a number of reasons:
1) The tires are purposely not engineered to last and apparently when they go south, they go south very fast. I guess we can expect to see races won not so much because cars passed each other on the track, but instead won because of who passed who in the pits and who got caught out there on the track with bad tires.
2) Watching the P2 practice session on TV last night, there was an awful lot of cars who could not keep it on the track. Can we expect this to happen in the races?
3) I honestly don't see how KERS or these movable rear wings are going to help passing when everyone has them and the crazy rule of if one car has inters or wets on then nobody is allowed to use their movable rear wing will only add to more confusion.
1) The tires are purposely not engineered to last and apparently when they go south, they go south very fast. I guess we can expect to see races won not so much because cars passed each other on the track, but instead won because of who passed who in the pits and who got caught out there on the track with bad tires.
2) Watching the P2 practice session on TV last night, there was an awful lot of cars who could not keep it on the track. Can we expect this to happen in the races?
3) I honestly don't see how KERS or these movable rear wings are going to help passing when everyone has them and the crazy rule of if one car has inters or wets on then nobody is allowed to use their movable rear wing will only add to more confusion.
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4) Now if a team's car isn't fast enough maybe they shouldn't be allowed in the races (sucks to be a fan of HRT ... then again do they actually have any fans?), but what will happen if the front runners place some fast times that half the field can't match with the 107% rule?
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but there will still be a lot of random variables and predicting winners before the races will not be easy. Unless of course one team/driver stand out above the rest. Here is hoping 2011 is as good as 2010 was. Time will tell. Gentlemen start your engines (LOL ... okay I know this is more of an Indy saying). ![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
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Fire up the grill Ray, this one is a whopper and quite possibly the best amigo yet...
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A. Wayne to paint a negative picture of all the Alonso supporters and fans out there. Most are normal people like Larry, AKA Morganabowen who appreciate the skill and precision that Alonso brings to the table each and every race weekend. The expressed views of A. Wayne are not necessarily shared by everyone and every Alonso fan is not a flaming ******* like A. Wayne. Thank you.
Look for Alonso to see podium this weekend. Grande Feranando!!!!
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Look for Alonso to see podium this weekend. Grande Feranando!!!!
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It's the same ****ty schedule as always for us in North America. I really need to get a DVR as this is killing my sleep schedule. Having said that, I stayed up till 3 am last night to watch practise and will do the same tonight with quali. Been waiting way too long for this season to start.
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2011 FORMULA 1 QANTAS AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:24.507
2 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:25.364 0.857
3 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.553 1.046
4 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.567 1.060
5 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:25.906 1.399
6 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.121 1.614
7 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.417 1.910
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:26.520 2.013
9 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:26.746 2.239
10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:26.856 2.349
11 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.008 2.501
12 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.011 2.504
13 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:27.066 2.559
14 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.087 2.580
15 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:27.180 2.673
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.068 3.561
17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.077 3.570
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:29.772 5.265
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:30.003 5.496
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.261 5.754
21 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:30.496 5.989
22 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.704 6.197
23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:41.554 17.047
24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth
Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 1 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:24.507
2 2 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:25.364 0.857
3 3 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.553 1.046
4 4 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.567 1.060
5 10 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:25.906 1.399
6 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:26.121 1.614
7 16 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.417 1.910
8 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:26.520 2.013
9 9 Nick Heidfeld Renault 1:26.746 2.239
10 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:26.856 2.349
11 18 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:27.008 2.501
12 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:27.011 2.504
13 19 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:27.066 2.559
14 15 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes 1:27.087 2.580
15 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:27.180 2.673
16 11 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:28.068 3.561
17 17 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari 1:28.077 3.570
18 20 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Renault 1:29.772 5.265
19 21 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Renault 1:30.003 5.496
20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.261 5.754
21 12 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Cosworth 1:30.496 5.989
22 25 Jerome d'Ambrosio Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.704 6.197
23 22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1:41.554 17.047
24 23 Vitantonio Liuzzi HRT-Cosworth
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Genuinely cannot tell what I'm most impressed by:
1) The advantage Red Bull has (at least in the hands of SB).
-Unlike Mclaren who seem to have a brand new concept from last year, the RB7 seems to be an evolution of their last platform. IMO it's evolution, not revolution, that breeds consistency. I'd compare last year's car to the F2001 Ferrari, although that car had an easier time taking the title. I think this car, like the F2002, has the potential to be a destroyer of world's.
2) SB not bothering to use the KERS system and still being 8 tenths up on Lewis (if I even heard that correctly!)
- Either Webber really messed up, Seb has a different car altogether, or we are witnessing an ridiculous talent at work. I think it's factors 1 and 3 at work here.
3) Mclaren, getting it oh so wrong during the winter, then coming up with solutions on the run to close the gap.
- Gone are the days of John Barnard, Gordon Murray, and Adrian Newey at Mclaren where they showed up to tests with the best car. But what an unbelievable development team...not sure Ron would approve though. They're gonna need help though.
1) The advantage Red Bull has (at least in the hands of SB).
-Unlike Mclaren who seem to have a brand new concept from last year, the RB7 seems to be an evolution of their last platform. IMO it's evolution, not revolution, that breeds consistency. I'd compare last year's car to the F2001 Ferrari, although that car had an easier time taking the title. I think this car, like the F2002, has the potential to be a destroyer of world's.
2) SB not bothering to use the KERS system and still being 8 tenths up on Lewis (if I even heard that correctly!)
- Either Webber really messed up, Seb has a different car altogether, or we are witnessing an ridiculous talent at work. I think it's factors 1 and 3 at work here.
3) Mclaren, getting it oh so wrong during the winter, then coming up with solutions on the run to close the gap.
- Gone are the days of John Barnard, Gordon Murray, and Adrian Newey at Mclaren where they showed up to tests with the best car. But what an unbelievable development team...not sure Ron would approve though. They're gonna need help though.
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-Who cares when they air the thing, who watches it live anyway?
-McLaren had nothing wrong in the winter, they were clearing holding their cards
-I think Massa will be gone very soon
-McLaren had nothing wrong in the winter, they were clearing holding their cards
-I think Massa will be gone very soon
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I think Kobayashi and rookie Sergio Perez making Sauber look competitive, and Di Resta in the mix, I think that we are in for a really good F1 season. Not to say that Vettel should be worried about any of them
. Massa should be the one worried
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WWWF1............... ![popcorn](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)
Petrov's Looking good in Kubika's car
Russia get's a GP and bam !!!!! Poor nick , he forgot how to drive ... and what happened to Stooley faux7 ......? All the kings horse and all the kings men , well u know
Flap up, flap down, Faux 7 is showing what i have said for years ,the man was barely above avg , just go to show, Bernie can make anyone look good or bad based on the Skit.. speaking of Bad , I guess they want Massa out , well obviously, he was a bad bwoy last year, squealing like a pig , how dare he...
Henjoy the show gentlemen, Vettel will screw up, Hamilton will screw up, making it another exciting WWWF program.......
Ohhh "real " racing news, Montoya is on pole at Fontana , no carburator manipulation there.......![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Petrov's Looking good in Kubika's car
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Flap up, flap down, Faux 7 is showing what i have said for years ,the man was barely above avg , just go to show, Bernie can make anyone look good or bad based on the Skit.. speaking of Bad , I guess they want Massa out , well obviously, he was a bad bwoy last year, squealing like a pig , how dare he...
Henjoy the show gentlemen, Vettel will screw up, Hamilton will screw up, making it another exciting WWWF program.......
Ohhh "real " racing news, Montoya is on pole at Fontana , no carburator manipulation there.......
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SV...Yeow! How do you expect me to win now , Hamilton is second ........
MW.....tough ******* mate..u're the new champion not me ...
MW.....tough ******* mate..u're the new champion not me ...
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I watched Martin Whitmarsh on BBC right after Q3 who said that KERS wasn't working on Lewis's car at the end. Not only does he lose the potential .3 sec but it messes up his brake balance as well. Not that he would've been faster than Seb, but still, not bad for a car that was pretty much written off as a competitor until yesterday.
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Saturday Qualifying Session
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23.529
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.307
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:24.395
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.779
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.974
6. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:25.247
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.421
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.599
9. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.626
10. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:27.066
Q2
11. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.971
12. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.103
13. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.108
14. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.739
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:26.768
16. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:31.407
17. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth No Time
Q1
18. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:27.239
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:29.254
20. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:29.342
21. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:29.858
22. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.822
23. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:32.978
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:34.293
POS DRIVER NATIONALITY ENTRANT TIME
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1:23.529
2. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.307
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1:24.395
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.779
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari 1:24.974
6. Vitaly Petrov Russia Renault 1:25.247
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.421
8. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari 1:25.599
9. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1:25.626
10. Sebastien Buemi Switzerland Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:27.066
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11. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes GP 1:25.971
12. Jaime Alguersuari Spain Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:26.103
13. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.108
14. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1:26.739
15. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Cosworth 1:26.768
16. Adrian Sutil Germany Force India-Mercedes 1:31.407
17. Rubens Barrichello Brazil Williams-Cosworth No Time
Q1
18. Nick Heidfeld Germany Renault 1:27.239
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Lotus-Renault 1:29.254
20. Jarno Trulli Italy Lotus-Renault 1:29.342
21. Timo Glock Germany Virgin-Cosworth 1:29.858
22. Jerome d'Ambrosio Belgium Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.822
23. Vitantonio Liuzzi Italy HRT-Cosworth 1:32.978
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1:34.293