MJSpeed

No I've never asked him that, however Prost said that by the time he saw him it was too late. I asked him if that meant that it was too late to protect or to avoid him, he just smiled. Senna didn't want an accident he just wanted by.

Senna was penalised $100,000 and received a 6-month suspended Superlicense suspension for the 1989 incident and nothing for 1990...which makes no sense.

333pg333

Never knew there were 4 steps on the podium?

Just like to say that I thought Webber really 'manned up' to his error in Korea. He was very close to winning pole which would/could have spelled a different result. He has come out and publicly stated that not only was the crash his fault completely, but also that he stuffed up in a few other places preceding the accident. He also didn't blame the conditions one bit.

I am now feeling like he may have let the WDC slip through his fingers, but applaud his straightforward nature and calling a spade a spade. Don't think his sense of self depracation is shared through the entire grid. Bravo!

Flying Finn

+1 and same can be said about Vettel. He could've ripped that POS engine apart after the DNF but took it calm and no finger pointing etc.

Also, regarding Red Bull being so "dumb" for not having team orders: I don't think they still do that since Seb has mathematical chance.
Red Bull is not your typical corporate type F1 team such as for example Ferrari is. They're loose company making all kind of stunts, crazy promotions etc. etc. and to do something that's not sportsmanship, which team orders obviously aren't, doesn't seem like they're style.

I believe Dietrich (sp?) is much happier even if they loose, because then they've created again publicity and done something good for the "sport" again.
Just think how many times media, fans etc. have talked about Red Bull because they allow their drivers race, resulting in crashing etc. and also look at the pad publicity Ferrari got (for a reason) for their actions in Germany.

Somehow this crazy millionaire who organizes people jumping to a roof of a building AND down with a motorcycle in Las Vegas, doesn't seem that type of a guy and I applaud him for that.

Larry Herman

You would think, but if the McLaren could not get heat in the tires with Hamilton driving, Button was in big trouble. Plus that pit stop was ill timed, and after languishing in the back for a while, I think that he probably realized that his day, and year, was over.

ltc

Fixed it for you...



It still looks like RBR and Newey can win the WCC, which many say mean more to a team than an individual WDC.

I hope so, since Newey designed an incredible car straight out of the box.

There was a rumor floating about that if Newey could win a WCC for RBR, Dietrich was going to buy him his own island.

RajDatta

+1.
The way the race turned out, it would have been interesting to see Alonso pressure Hamilton. Also, Hamilton's tires were much worse towards the end and Alonso seemed to do a better job with his tires. Hamilton is very good in the rain, so it was somewhat of a surprised. I am sure we will see them duke it out in the future, now that they are both on a level playing field.

RajDatta

After looking at the video, it is very clear as you said, if Senna wasn't there, Prost would have ended on grass. It was too early to turn.
Thanks for sharing.

RajDatta

Are you kidding me? The door was left open by Prost and Prost turned in too early. Prost would have looked like a fool if Senna wasn't there. He would have missed his turn in by almost 20 ft (too early). How can this be argued?
It is clear from the video.
I have not spoken to either one and was too young to follow F1, but the video's show it all.

Luis de Prat

This is precisely what I meant by 'mechanical sympathy.' Hamilton is fast and immensely talented, but his choppy style in the turns is harder on the tires than Alonso's more planted way of driving.

RajDatta

Also, Alonso was holding back his car to save this tires. Speed coverage shared some communications between Alonso and his chief engineer where he was told to pull back a little on certain turns.
BTW, check out the new thread I just posted. It could put a few people in a state of depression.
Oh Lewis, where are you???? lol

chris walrod

Completely agree!

I took it as Button to be the one on experimental strategy.

At the front, typically, 2nd and 3rd position follows the leader. If the leader stays out, then do the same. Leader pits? -- follow the leader.

Flying Finn

You must've never seen Alonso's turn in...

TwentySix

+1 Though he seemed to smooth out a bit over time. I always think he's gonna lose it the way he violently warms up the tires, too...

TwentySix

Too funny! Thanks for the insight! Amazing how little there is of that around here sometimes....

TwentySix

Berger: Webber was trying to take out Alonso or Hamilton

27 October 2010
Former F1 winner and F1 team owner Gerhard Berger has claimed Mark Webber knew exactly what he was doing when he collected Nico Rosberg after crashing out of the Korean Grand Prix on Sunday - although he believes the Aussie was aiming for someone else, namely one of his title rivals.

Webber had gone into the seventeenth round in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, leading the title race, 14 points up on Fernando Alonso. However his mistake in the early stages when he got caught out by the tricky conditions cost him dear. He now drops to second in the standings, 11 points off the top.

Speaking to Servus TV, Berger said Webber could easily have avoided coming back onto the track after hitting the wall.

"He could have hit the brakes and stopped the car at the wall," said Berger, who raced in F1 from 1984-1997, winning ten grand’s prix during spells with teams such as McLaren, Ferrari and Benetton. "He took out [Nico] Rosberg, but it was the wrong one. I think in his mind he would have preferred Alonso or [Lewis] Hamilton.

“It was very clear [what he was trying to do]. He goes off and he knows it's over. In this moment you're frustrated and a thousand thoughts go through your head. It's very obvious, you can see his wheels are not locked up. Perhaps he had a brake problem, but I don't think so."

Rosberg, who had fought his way up to fourth in his Mercedes, was similarly suspicious: "I don't understand why Webber didn't hit the brakes. It was crazy to roll back across the track like that.

“It was really difficult to judge which way Mark's car would go and I took the decision to go left but he spun more and more that way and I just couldn't avoid him. It's a real shame," Rosberg added.