2009 F1 German GP Preview, Predictions and Discussion - No Spoilers
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So vot vill last ditch desperation Bourdais do at this race.
Crash into another driver.
Punt himself off into the weeds at lightning speed in the rain.
With his F1 resume, don't think he'll be getting another F1 ride soon.
Crash into another driver.
Punt himself off into the weeds at lightning speed in the rain.
With his F1 resume, don't think he'll be getting another F1 ride soon.
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There were plenty of drivers out there at the same time also on slicks who still put in times that put them through to Q3. He braked too late and spun, plain and simple. In F1 (the absolute pinnacle of driving) that's a choke.
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As I mentioned earlier, even if you turn the Alonso PR Spin Machine up to 'Eleven', it still doesn't change what you said....
Choke.
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its also good to see hammy running strong this weekend though it seemed he had another chance to get a flyer in knowing that webber, vettel, and button etc were behind him
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Good on ya Webbo..............I hope he wins but then again the Brawns will be on him like a wacked 'Roo after lights out and lets not forget Sutil.............fantastic result.
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I expect the Brawns to fade, especially at the start of the race when the tires have been sitting on the grid. Too cold, too wet for the Brawns to make a difference. The question is can Vettel catch Webber who will be off and building a lead in clear and clean air. I think he can, especially if the rain comes down hard and we get a SC period.
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Sutil heavier than Ferrari but Button lightest car
11 July 2009 / Results
As always, governing body the FIA revealed the weights of the 20 cars after qualifying on Saturday evening. The results make for interesting reading, as seventh-placed Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel and Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race. Red Bull pilots Sebastian Vettel and pole winner Mark Webber are carrying identical fuel loads.
- Lightest car: Jenson Button / Brawn - 3rd - 644.0kg
- Heaviest car: Nico Rosberg / Williams - 15th - 689.6kg
Post-qualifying car weights:
1 - Mark Webber / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
2 - Rubens Barrichello / Brawn = 647.0kg
3 - Jenson Button / Brawn = 644.0kg *
4 - Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
5 - Lewis Hamilton / McLaren = 654.5kg *
6 - Heikki Kovalainen / McLaren = 664.0kg
7 - Adrian Sutil / Force India = 678.5kg
8 - Felipe Massa / Ferrari = 673.5kg *
9 - Kimi Räikkönen / Ferrari = 674.0kg
10 - Nelson Piquet / Renault = 676.0kg
11 - Nick Heidfeld / BMW = 681.0kg
12 - Fernando Alonso / Renault = 668.2kg *
13 - Kazuki Nakajima / Williams = 683.6kg *
14 - Jarno Trulli / Toyota = 683.7kg
15 - Nico Rosberg / Williams = 689.6kg
16 - Robert Kubica / BMW = 673.5kg *
17 - Sébastien Buemi / Toro Rosso = 674.5kg *
18 - Giancarlo Fisichella / Force India = 662.5kg *
19 - Sébastien Bourdais / Toro Rosso = 689.5kg
20 - Timo Glock / Toyota = 662.3kg *
* Lightest of the team's two cars (first to pit under normal circumstances)
** Carrying identical fuel load to team-mate
11 July 2009 / Results
As always, governing body the FIA revealed the weights of the 20 cars after qualifying on Saturday evening. The results make for interesting reading, as seventh-placed Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel and Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race. Red Bull pilots Sebastian Vettel and pole winner Mark Webber are carrying identical fuel loads.
- Lightest car: Jenson Button / Brawn - 3rd - 644.0kg
- Heaviest car: Nico Rosberg / Williams - 15th - 689.6kg
Post-qualifying car weights:
1 - Mark Webber / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
2 - Rubens Barrichello / Brawn = 647.0kg
3 - Jenson Button / Brawn = 644.0kg *
4 - Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
5 - Lewis Hamilton / McLaren = 654.5kg *
6 - Heikki Kovalainen / McLaren = 664.0kg
7 - Adrian Sutil / Force India = 678.5kg
8 - Felipe Massa / Ferrari = 673.5kg *
9 - Kimi Räikkönen / Ferrari = 674.0kg
10 - Nelson Piquet / Renault = 676.0kg
11 - Nick Heidfeld / BMW = 681.0kg
12 - Fernando Alonso / Renault = 668.2kg *
13 - Kazuki Nakajima / Williams = 683.6kg *
14 - Jarno Trulli / Toyota = 683.7kg
15 - Nico Rosberg / Williams = 689.6kg
16 - Robert Kubica / BMW = 673.5kg *
17 - Sébastien Buemi / Toro Rosso = 674.5kg *
18 - Giancarlo Fisichella / Force India = 662.5kg *
19 - Sébastien Bourdais / Toro Rosso = 689.5kg
20 - Timo Glock / Toyota = 662.3kg *
* Lightest of the team's two cars (first to pit under normal circumstances)
** Carrying identical fuel load to team-mate
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Sutil heavier than Ferrari but Button lightest car
11 July 2009 / Results
As always, governing body the FIA revealed the weights of the 20 cars after qualifying on Saturday evening. The results make for interesting reading, as seventh-placed Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel and Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race. Red Bull pilots Sebastian Vettel and pole winner Mark Webber are carrying identical fuel loads.
- Lightest car: Jenson Button / Brawn - 3rd - 644.0kg
- Heaviest car: Nico Rosberg / Williams - 15th - 689.6kg
Post-qualifying car weights:
1 - Mark Webber / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
2 - Rubens Barrichello / Brawn = 647.0kg
3 - Jenson Button / Brawn = 644.0kg *
4 - Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
5 - Lewis Hamilton / McLaren = 654.5kg *
6 - Heikki Kovalainen / McLaren = 664.0kg
7 - Adrian Sutil / Force India = 678.5kg
8 - Felipe Massa / Ferrari = 673.5kg *
9 - Kimi Räikkönen / Ferrari = 674.0kg
10 - Nelson Piquet / Renault = 676.0kg
11 - Nick Heidfeld / BMW = 681.0kg
12 - Fernando Alonso / Renault = 668.2kg *
13 - Kazuki Nakajima / Williams = 683.6kg *
14 - Jarno Trulli / Toyota = 683.7kg
15 - Nico Rosberg / Williams = 689.6kg
16 - Robert Kubica / BMW = 673.5kg *
17 - Sébastien Buemi / Toro Rosso = 674.5kg *
18 - Giancarlo Fisichella / Force India = 662.5kg *
19 - Sébastien Bourdais / Toro Rosso = 689.5kg
20 - Timo Glock / Toyota = 662.3kg *
* Lightest of the team's two cars (first to pit under normal circumstances)
** Carrying identical fuel load to team-mate
11 July 2009 / Results
As always, governing body the FIA revealed the weights of the 20 cars after qualifying on Saturday evening. The results make for interesting reading, as seventh-placed Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel and Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race. Red Bull pilots Sebastian Vettel and pole winner Mark Webber are carrying identical fuel loads.
- Lightest car: Jenson Button / Brawn - 3rd - 644.0kg
- Heaviest car: Nico Rosberg / Williams - 15th - 689.6kg
Post-qualifying car weights:
1 - Mark Webber / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
2 - Rubens Barrichello / Brawn = 647.0kg
3 - Jenson Button / Brawn = 644.0kg *
4 - Sebastian Vettel / Red Bull = 661.0kg **
5 - Lewis Hamilton / McLaren = 654.5kg *
6 - Heikki Kovalainen / McLaren = 664.0kg
7 - Adrian Sutil / Force India = 678.5kg
8 - Felipe Massa / Ferrari = 673.5kg *
9 - Kimi Räikkönen / Ferrari = 674.0kg
10 - Nelson Piquet / Renault = 676.0kg
11 - Nick Heidfeld / BMW = 681.0kg
12 - Fernando Alonso / Renault = 668.2kg *
13 - Kazuki Nakajima / Williams = 683.6kg *
14 - Jarno Trulli / Toyota = 683.7kg
15 - Nico Rosberg / Williams = 689.6kg
16 - Robert Kubica / BMW = 673.5kg *
17 - Sébastien Buemi / Toro Rosso = 674.5kg *
18 - Giancarlo Fisichella / Force India = 662.5kg *
19 - Sébastien Bourdais / Toro Rosso = 689.5kg
20 - Timo Glock / Toyota = 662.3kg *
* Lightest of the team's two cars (first to pit under normal circumstances)
** Carrying identical fuel load to team-mate
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Webber should pit 2nd based on his higher qualification position. If he pits 1st without any solid reason to do so, then obviously Vettel is the defacto leader of the team.
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Are you ready to man up , Barrichello beats Button , 1 bottle , are you in ? ........
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Couple this with the fact that both Brawns are lighter on fuel, if Vettel can't get by lap 2, he might have to wait until they pit and then make up time.
I don't think Vettel is the leader yet. Webber is too close in the points and either one could be a factor coming down the stretch of this season.