PCA medical committee revoked my race license
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I am one of four brothers and three of us are Type A hard drivers. Our youngest brother is an extremely talented artist. He sculps marble, paints with oil, water color, egg tempra. You name it - he can do it. All his stuff is worthy of being in great museums if only he were famous.
He is different from us - he is an incredibly nice guy who doesn't like to cause problems and just goes along. There are people like this in the world. My brother is one of these people and Manifold I think you are one as well.
I love my brother dearly but if we ever had a zombie apocalypse or something like that I think he would be out there trying to work it out with the zombies. He is a good person. Blessed be the peace makers and all that.
Sometimes I wish I was wired like that because my brother seems at peace all the time. But I can wish all I want and it won't change who I am any more than you can change who you are.
The bottom line is you will never understand why I choose to fight and I will never understand why you want to give in.
He is different from us - he is an incredibly nice guy who doesn't like to cause problems and just goes along. There are people like this in the world. My brother is one of these people and Manifold I think you are one as well.
I love my brother dearly but if we ever had a zombie apocalypse or something like that I think he would be out there trying to work it out with the zombies. He is a good person. Blessed be the peace makers and all that.
Sometimes I wish I was wired like that because my brother seems at peace all the time. But I can wish all I want and it won't change who I am any more than you can change who you are.
The bottom line is you will never understand why I choose to fight and I will never understand why you want to give in.
The more significant difference between you and me is that I'm more selective in picking my battles. I have a LOT of weight on my shoulders in my real non-online life, and am just not in a position to fight about everything that bothers me. I would consider it a luxury to be able to do that.
So then why am I expending time and energy to post in this thread? Because I feel bad for what's happened to you, and because my PCA experience has been important part of my life and I think the thread should be fair to PCA also, since they aren't really represented here.
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The situation really sucks, no winners here.
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This thread has definitely gotten goofy, and I have certainly played a small part in that. I think it's important to separate Todd's issues, and how the back and forth between him and PCA was handled, from the club racing program overall. IMO, you would be hard pressed to find another amateur racing program offering more track time over a 2 or 3 (or 4, like Road America later this week) weekend. While it's fair to offer criticism where it is due, it's also necessary to recognize the good that's there.
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This thread has definitely gotten goofy, and I have certainly played a small part in that. I think it's important to separate Todd's issues, and how the back and forth between him and PCA was handled, from the club racing program overall. IMO, you would be hard pressed to find another amateur racing program offering more track time over a 2 or 3 (or 4, like Road America later this week) weekend. While it's fair to offer criticism where it is due, it's also necessary to recognize the good that's there.
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Then maybe try make peace with them and renew your license? Maybe both sides could offer an apology and take some blame? Everyone likes a 'happy ending'.
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What did he think was going to happen when he suspended me for a year? I would go sulk quietly in the corner?
There was a solution at hand and instead he gave a stupid emotional response no doubt egged on by others at PCA. The problem is that there are no adults in the room and his decision was not in the best interest of PCA or PCA CR.
PCA can paint me as the bad guy all they want but it is actions like this that caused me to react the way I did. They seem to want this public fight so who is to blame going forward?
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I offered several times, as recently as a month ago, only to have my hand slapped away by Dave Rodenroth, the club race chair.
What did he think was going to happen when he suspended me for a year? I would go sulk quietly in the corner?
There was a solution at hand and instead he gave a stupid emotional response no doubt egged on by others at PCA. The problem is that there are no adults in the room and his decision was not in the best interest of PCA or PCA CR.
PCA can paint me as the bad guy all they want but it is actions like this that caused me to react the way I did. They seem to want this public fight so who is to blame going forward?
What did he think was going to happen when he suspended me for a year? I would go sulk quietly in the corner?
There was a solution at hand and instead he gave a stupid emotional response no doubt egged on by others at PCA. The problem is that there are no adults in the room and his decision was not in the best interest of PCA or PCA CR.
PCA can paint me as the bad guy all they want but it is actions like this that caused me to react the way I did. They seem to want this public fight so who is to blame going forward?
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Having not been witness to your discussions with PCA, I guess I don't know what to suggest. But continuing this fight in public, with PCA not really in a position to speak for themselves, doesn't seem to be helping your situation or theirs. I really doubt they want this fight to be public.
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I am not pretending to be a sleep specialist nor a physician specializing in sleep disorder. I am just a 50+ guy, overweight, that has recently been diagnosed with sleep apnea . I sort of have known I had it for a long time but foolishly choose to ignore it. My physician, after the results of a one (1) nights recent sleep study were known, prescribed a CPAP device that is now on order, free to those qualified for Medicare. Another option, serving the same purpose, is the "Inspire" device that requires a minor surgical implant, but NOT applicable to obese patients. This is a regal solution and is not cheap.
You will be issued a scrip for a CPAP after your sleep has been evaluated with a sleep monitoring device, and have been subsequently diagnosed with breathing irregularities while sleeping. Patient's age of 50+ and overweight (Obesity with 40% of us there these days) are predictors of nocturnal breathing problems. Most people do not experience breathing problems while awake, and those who do, are chronically ill and will not be seen out on the track. A potential problem for those experiencing irregular breathing while sleeping is precipitation of a stroke, from mild to terminal, cardio events can also be precipitated by irregular nocturnal breathing. Ergo, those who have adopted the CPAP regimen are proactively optimizing their health. I would think that CPAP utilization would be a positive sign by the PCA Medical Committee, being that those whose nocturnal breathing problems are ignored, consciously or otherwise, are putting themselves and their fellow drivers at risk. See *** below. Doing otherwise is just encouraging drivers to be less than candid about their health. The "word is out" it would seem, at least across the RENNLIST RACING and DE FORUM, that CPAP is not to be disclosed on one's annual PCA physical Form in spite of CPAP's documented role as a sleep optimization device.
Where am I going with this? If PCA were to seriously care about a race driver's health, they would have done the research, which clearly they haven't , and would applaud driver's utilization of a CPAP device. Doing otherwise is shear ignorance and stupidity.
*** Results of an AI search, "Obesity and obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) are both common health problems that share many risk factors, including age, sex, genetics, and lifestyle factors like diet and physical inactivity. Obesity can increase the risk of OSA by narrowing the airway through fat deposits in the tissues around the upper airway. When this happens, the airway becomes smaller and more likely to collapse, which can lead to apnea. Additionally, when people with obesity fall asleep, they may not have as much muscle control as they do when they're awake, which can cause their tongue to slide back into their throat.
According to the Wisconsin Sleep Cohort Study, a 10% weight gain can increase the risk of developing moderate to severe OSA by six times.Conversely, a 10% weight loss can decrease the risk by 26%. Weight loss can also help with other conditions associated with obesity and sleep apnea, but it may not be the only factor in a treatment plan. Other options include CPAP therapy, which keeps airways open during sleep, and obesity drugs, which can help get rid of fat in the tongue."
You will be issued a scrip for a CPAP after your sleep has been evaluated with a sleep monitoring device, and have been subsequently diagnosed with breathing irregularities while sleeping. Patient's age of 50+ and overweight (Obesity with 40% of us there these days) are predictors of nocturnal breathing problems. Most people do not experience breathing problems while awake, and those who do, are chronically ill and will not be seen out on the track. A potential problem for those experiencing irregular breathing while sleeping is precipitation of a stroke, from mild to terminal, cardio events can also be precipitated by irregular nocturnal breathing. Ergo, those who have adopted the CPAP regimen are proactively optimizing their health. I would think that CPAP utilization would be a positive sign by the PCA Medical Committee, being that those whose nocturnal breathing problems are ignored, consciously or otherwise, are putting themselves and their fellow drivers at risk. See *** below. Doing otherwise is just encouraging drivers to be less than candid about their health. The "word is out" it would seem, at least across the RENNLIST RACING and DE FORUM, that CPAP is not to be disclosed on one's annual PCA physical Form in spite of CPAP's documented role as a sleep optimization device.
Where am I going with this? If PCA were to seriously care about a race driver's health, they would have done the research, which clearly they haven't , and would applaud driver's utilization of a CPAP device. Doing otherwise is shear ignorance and stupidity.
*** Results of an AI search, "Obesity and obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) are both common health problems that share many risk factors, including age, sex, genetics, and lifestyle factors like diet and physical inactivity. Obesity can increase the risk of OSA by narrowing the airway through fat deposits in the tissues around the upper airway. When this happens, the airway becomes smaller and more likely to collapse, which can lead to apnea. Additionally, when people with obesity fall asleep, they may not have as much muscle control as they do when they're awake, which can cause their tongue to slide back into their throat.
According to the Wisconsin Sleep Cohort Study, a 10% weight gain can increase the risk of developing moderate to severe OSA by six times.Conversely, a 10% weight loss can decrease the risk by 26%. Weight loss can also help with other conditions associated with obesity and sleep apnea, but it may not be the only factor in a treatment plan. Other options include CPAP therapy, which keeps airways open during sleep, and obesity drugs, which can help get rid of fat in the tongue."
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