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The thing is ALO would only pull a maneuver like this in an attempt to defend from another driver close behind so the chances of another crash with the same maneuver is high, probably very high.
I believe lost in all this is the fact that Alonso did not have the intent to crash out George. Race craft is indeed an art and not exact science. A statement released from AM. There will be no appeal.
I believe lost in all this is the fact that Alonso did not have the intent to crash out George. Race craft is indeed an art and not exact science. A statement released from AM. There will be no appeal.
I stayed at the same hotel as AM in Montreal last June and got to ride the elevator with different members of the team including Mike Krack. I didn't want to be that bothersome fan so I just said "I think you are doing a great job with this team" and he just said thank you.
I have read this quote a hundred times by now, but I'm reasonably certain that if GR is following ALO again, George will either be the wiser to such a move and/or will not be following as close.
No rus does not learn. I bet rus has another crash/dnf within the last 5 laps of at least one more race this season. That's how he rolls.
20 years ago I had a chance to purchase a lunch with Fernando at a charity auction. I was a new fan in f1 and didn't realize what a treat that would have been. I also had a helmet for DE that had his graphics. Would love to have lunch with him.
If RUS just straight lines the corner, he's on the radio complaining, but no damage was done. The crash however puts closer scrutiny on the incident.
The difference in speed at the apex was only 200 KPH v 216 KPH but I saw the traces for 4 laps, the one in question and the 3 before. The lift from throttle was abrupt and even with the braking not being an issue on slowing the car, according to the stewards, these cars carry so much DF that a simple lift can slow a car down enough. I don't consider it brake checking in it's purest sense and will stick by my previous assessment of being a bit naughty
Can I give credit to Martin Brundle? Without any telemetry he was able to see with the naked eye that Alonso slowed down in that corner, even though it was only 16 kph. Perhaps George should ask Martin for some pointers on how to identify that earlier.
Your statement about Russell just ‘straight lining the corner’ assumes he had downforce on the front of the car. I contend that Alonso did what he did knowing he would upset the already disturbed air on the front of Russell’s car from it being so close, and Russell’s front wing probably stalled out. Given the speeds in that sequence and a front end ‘washing out’ on him gave him almost no time to react. Alonso accomplished what he wanted which was to markedly destabilize the aero on Russell’s car.
Your statement about Russell just ‘straight lining the corner’ assumes he had downforce on the front of the car. I contend that Alonso did what he did knowing he would upset the already disturbed air on the front of Russell’s car from it being so close, and Russell’s front wing probably stalled out. Given the speeds in that sequence and a front end ‘washing out’ on him gave him almost no time to react. Alonso accomplished what he wanted which was to markedly destabilize the aero on Russell’s car.
I think we're all on agreement on your statement. Where we differ is what the intent was vs. the outcome. If there was any evidence of Alonso trying to crash out Russell, ALO would have been DQed immediately and perhaps banned. He's trying to slow him down before the corner so ALO can get a better launch out and before the double DRS zone. As an aside, there's always some form of aero wash when following a car. The video I posted of the 2005 Imola race where Schumacher is chasing down Alonso shows a few different instances of the front end washing out when MS gets too close to Alonso's rear wing.
I'm fairly certain that Alonso did not intend to crash RUS out.
Just as he didn't intend to crash Ocon out last year.
I think he simply didn't care one way or the other. Sh*t happens....
Was all that radio jabber with Alonso having difficulty managing a battery problem after the incident more likely a bit of "guilty conscience" after the fact, laying the groundwork for an explanation for the "erratic" driving? Hard to say definitively, but it may be that Alonso realized that his tactic worked a lot "better" than he had really meant.
Did he try to neutralize Russel's potential overtake attempt? Yeah, probably.
Did he intend for the ultimate effect be the crash? I assume not.
Probably deserving of the penalty, but also something that George should learn from to better anticipate next time.
So, being an ***hole vs race craft? Certainly 'home team confirmation bias' colours my opinion - FA achieved the objective, GR's over eagerness bit him.
Crash not intended hopefully
Again the Rules eclipse the Racing. Other than GR vs FA, and offscreen, outside the points battles - nothing to see here. Look at the time gaps in the last quarter of AUS, yawn.
Did F1 direct RedBull to sabotage Max in a boredom fighting strategy? It kinda worked . . .
I might be in the minority but I am kind of over Guenther Steiner- was not a fan of him interviewing the winners last weekend- I think most of them even had difficulty understanding him. Also didn't find him that amusing in DTS just because every other word was the F word. Now he's the ambassador of the Miami race? Am I missing something?
And Toto's talk about Max? Can you imagine Toto and Jos on the same team????
I stayed at the same hotel as AM in Montreal last June and got to ride the elevator with different members of the team including Mike Krack. I didn't want to be that bothersome fan so I just said "I think you are doing a great job with this team" and he just said thank you.
I know what hotel you were at as I ended up having drinks with Crofty at the bar with Mike Krack sitting at a nearby table after the race on Sunday. I’ve been a guest of the team two times that it’s paddock club suite. Just a fan not a sponsor. Krack is a class act.
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