multi21

hahaha, very true... I don't even want to think how much a weekend ticket would be.

There was a recent podcast with Ricciardo who went to the same hand doctor in Spain that the MotoGP guys go to. In not so many words, he said he was a little wussy when it came to his surgery and rehab as compared to MotoGP guys who are back on a bike in 1-2 weeks compared to his 2 months. He called them aliens. LOL

LuigiVampa

multi21

Formula One Management has just rejected Andretti's bid to become the 11th team on the grid in 2025 or 2026....

LuigiVampa

Here are the reasons -

Carlo_Carrera

Wow, the value of a current F1 team just jumped up about 25% in my humble opinion.

multi21

No way GM comes into F1 as an OEM by 2028 or anytime. Bottomline is if Andretti wants to be in F1, they'll have to buy out HAAS

Carlo_Carrera

I agree, the FOM statement is clearly saying they don’t want any more back marker privateer teams like Haas. They want an OEM to buy Haas.

thebishman

What a ****ing pompous statement that was!

I hope that Andretti buys Haas, since there seems to be no other option going forward, and they start being competitive immediately. Pie in the Sky, I know but that statement has me all pissed off.

gbuff

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gbuff

Or Williams if Dorilton could be convinced to sell.....

Carlo_Carrera

Yes, FOM is being a bit two-faced about this, but I think in their minds things have changed. They want OEMs owning these teams going forward. At least that’s what their statement says.

goin2drt

Well they are not wrong about a lot of these. That has to be a big EGO blow to the Andretti's, especially last sentence in 14 and 16 . Maybe they ought to try and buy an existing team. I am sure if the money was right, someone would sell.

multi21

I agree with FOM that it would be nearly impossible and a huge waste of money for Andretti to come in for 2025 given the formula will change again for 2026. From what I understand, those regulations have not been finalized yet, so even the existing teams don't have a blueprint in which to build their cars and PU. Further, they aren't allowed to start working on said cars until Jan. 2025 IRC. If we look at how Audi are positioning themselves, it looks to be what existing F1 teams want.

The bottom line is that Andretti will have to be patient and wait for someone to sell out. Big OEMs, like BMW, Toyota, Jaguar to say nothing of privateers like Jordan, Prost and others have vacated F1 not too long ago. Besides HAAS, Sauber/Alfa just sold out a couple years ago and Alpha Tauri is always rumored to be on the auction block. IMO, the relative stability in F1 team structure recently has to do more with the increasing valuations and a hold mentality. Impossible to say how much higher the values could go, but we're probably closer to peak than 3-5 years ago.

Carlo_Carrera

Bingo.

Carlo_Carrera

This is also the Teams and FOM sending a big FU to Mohammed Ben Sulayem.

IMHO Mohammed Ben Sulayem will be replaced at first opportunity.