Toyo RA1 Vs MPSC
#31
Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
That's why I'm done with MPSC's. I'd rather track street tires than deal with how treacherous MPSC's are, warm OR hot.
#33
Relief Valves?
Has anyone run these? We used to run them on our SCCA GT cars (bias slicks)with great success. They do require that you keep the valves very very clean so that they operate properly. I haven't tried them on a DOT setup, but I'm thinking about it. The beauty is that you set the ideal pressure before going to pre-grid. As the tire builds heat it bleeds the pressure accordingly. You now have optimal tire pressure for every lap right from the start. Tires also last longer.
#35
Hear, Hear!
Originally Posted by David 23
Is anyone willing to complicate this thread by throwing Pirelli Corsas into the comparison?
Thanks,
Bro
#37
Originally Posted by TheOtherEric
That's why I'm done with MPSC's. I'd rather track street tires than deal with how treacherous MPSC's are, warm OR hot.
#38
Originally Posted by Phokaioglaukos
The Pirelli Corsas have been discontinued? It's still on the Pirelli web site and Tire Rack is showing low stock or back order for inventory.
From the TireRack web page:
The P Zero Corsa System combines two of Pirelli's DOT-legal Competition tire designs that have been developed for the drivers of high-powered, super sports cars primarily for use at drivers' schools and lapping days conducted on race tracks. Also Original Equipment for the road versions of Ferrari 360 Challenge and Porsche GT3 cars, the P Zero Corsa System was designed to maximize a car's performance and satisfy even the most demanding driver in terms of dry handling and braking without abandoning wet performance and noise comfort. The P Zero Corsa System incorporates Pirelli's racing experience to enhance driving satisfaction at the limits.
P Zero Corsa System includes P Zero Corsa Direzionale tires for the front and P Zero Corsa Asimmetrico tires for the rear. The directional front tires penetrate the water surface, clearing a path for the rears, which complete water dispersal for increased driving control.
Bro
#39
I read that, but the Corsa System has been around for a while at the same time as the Corsa (non-System). It's also wrong in that the Corsa was not the GT3 OEM tire for 2005. At least mine came with Pirelli Rosso tires!
#40
Originally Posted by DrJupeman
Fwiw, I've never found them "treacherous" and I've run them from 35 degree ambient up to 100 degree ambient...
#41
Originally Posted by DrJupeman
Fwiw, I've never found them "treacherous" and I've run them from 35 degree ambient up to 100 degree ambient...
#42
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i dont find mpsc dangerous, but it is more sensitive to camber and temp than RA1 and also takes a lap or two to warm up, but great tires though.
RA is less sensitive, i them them hot 38-40 for SM, M3 or 996C2. you can go out fast the first lap. they can be driven on street and last a bit longer than mpsc and a tad cheaper. not as grippy though.
RA is less sensitive, i them them hot 38-40 for SM, M3 or 996C2. you can go out fast the first lap. they can be driven on street and last a bit longer than mpsc and a tad cheaper. not as grippy though.
#43
I had MPSC's on my 993 (2800lbs) and ran pretty good at Road Atlanta in 03. But when I took them to Putnam I was way off the mark at least 1.5 seconds slower than I ran on the Hoosiers.
One thing I learned on the MPSC's is that they created some very intense high speed oversteer situation and in slow corners they really wanted to push. Turn 12 at Road Atlanta was one example. After using them for a few races I gave up on them and went much faster on the Hoosiers.
One thing I learned on the MPSC's is that they created some very intense high speed oversteer situation and in slow corners they really wanted to push. Turn 12 at Road Atlanta was one example. After using them for a few races I gave up on them and went much faster on the Hoosiers.
#45
Originally Posted by Greg Fishman
I had MPSC's on my 993 (2800lbs) and ran pretty good at Road Atlanta in 03. But when I took them to Putnam I was way off the mark at least 1.5 seconds slower than I ran on the Hoosiers.
One thing I learned on the MPSC's is that they created some very intense high speed oversteer situation and in slow corners they really wanted to push. Turn 12 at Road Atlanta was one example. After using them for a few races I gave up on them and went much faster on the Hoosiers.
One thing I learned on the MPSC's is that they created some very intense high speed oversteer situation and in slow corners they really wanted to push. Turn 12 at Road Atlanta was one example. After using them for a few races I gave up on them and went much faster on the Hoosiers.