GT350
03-23-2016, 03:48 PM
#676
Hopefully I get my gt350 early this fall so you can help brake it in and show me how to drive Sebring! Deal?I'm not to worried about the Shelby being a bad DD, worried about the seats being to high with helmet on. Mustangs always have seats mounted like in a SUV.
03-23-2016, 04:06 PM
#677
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03-23-2016, 04:48 PM
#678
Race Director
[QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13132900]
I recently got a 2016 Z06 with 2LZ trim (Got $10K off sticker + $2500 Chevy Volt Loyalty cash). I think it has a much nicer interior, sound system, PDR / Nav than GT350. It also has Apple Car Play which I really like. But I'm getting rid of it soon. Seats still sucks. Traction is horrible. Don't really enjoy driving it.
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
That's really it. The GT3, for example, cannot be compared to anything else purely by looking at numbers or features. It is the combination of everything that makes the car special. I have yet to find something I dislike about this car. Doubt i will find anything.
I recently got a 2016 Z06 with 2LZ trim (Got $10K off sticker + $2500 Chevy Volt Loyalty cash). I think it has a much nicer interior, sound system, PDR / Nav than GT350. It also has Apple Car Play which I really like. But I'm getting rid of it soon. Seats still sucks. Traction is horrible. Don't really enjoy driving it.
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
03-23-2016, 05:04 PM
#679
[QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13132900][QUOTE=TRAKCAR;13132706]
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
03-23-2016, 05:07 PM
#680
I think if you guys are looking to replace Porsches with Shelby's it's not going to make you happy - just the same as there isn't really a Porsche that can replace the Shelby experience. I personally switch back and forth between a 997S and the GT350 and I find the different driving dynamics compliment each other perfectly.
Lumber - how long do you normally keep your cars? One other person who sold their GT350 after a short period was a car dealer who had bought and sold a dozen sports cars over the last year.
Lumber - how long do you normally keep your cars? One other person who sold their GT350 after a short period was a car dealer who had bought and sold a dozen sports cars over the last year.
Yup having both would be ideal, the rawness of the Gt350 and the precision of the Porsche, but alas I have to pick just one
03-23-2016, 05:50 PM
#682
Back seat option on the R
For those who have been thinking of the R but like the rear seats, I just confirmed with my dealer that Ford is selling a parts package for the R that includes rear seats and seatbelts. It's not for everyone but nice to have the option to take small humans for a ride.
It's about $1800 CAD for the parts.
It's about $1800 CAD for the parts.
03-23-2016, 06:26 PM
#683
[QUOTE=baege;13133522][QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13132900]
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
03-23-2016, 06:29 PM
#684
Race Car
[QUOTE=baege;13133522][QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13132900]
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
Most definitely not - I test drove a C7 Stingray and although very impressive, nowhere near the driving experience of the GT350. As for driving position/visibility the 911 is the leader - always has been.
You just can't match quality and feel of GT3 / GT4 with American cars. Especially with GT4, everything feels perfect. Perfect driving position, perfect visibility, not too big, around 3,000 lbs!, low center of gravity. GT350 can't match any of that.
A lot of what you say, holds true for the lower tier compare of my 2015 C7 vs my 981CS. The CS is just more fun to drive overall, better driving position, visibility, compact and nimble, everything just felt better and more integrated. I also liked the sound of the flat 6 over the c7 v8, race car vs truck motor comes to mind. About the only thing the C7 had over the 981 was low end torque, but due to its poor throttle response I didn't even find that all that enthralling. Sounds like I would have pretty much the same experience with the Gt350, except that it sounds better than a flat 6 and it is that sound that really first attracted me to the car...
My search continues...lately I have been leaning towards a vantage v8...
03-23-2016, 06:36 PM
#685
Race Car
[QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13133771][QUOTE=baege;13133522]
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
I would say at low rpm it is very snappy - quick taps with the foot out the garage and it's very responsive. 5000 - 8250rpm is just violent and that's where the 460lbs/ft of torque really steps in also.
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
03-23-2016, 06:41 PM
#686
OT. I hate the 7 speed manual on the C7. That skip shift 1-4 is annoying as heck. Also, why did they put the gates so close together? It's too easy to change to a wrong gear. I think this and the overheating (I've witness how bad this is first hand) are the two main reasons for selling the car soon.
GT350 is definitely a better car than a C7 by far. I wish Ford and GM can cooperate and create a C7 Z06 with GT350 motor and transmission with Porsche 18 way adjustable seats. That way you get the better power train of the GT350 with a better weight balanced FR car.
GT350 is definitely a better car than a C7 by far. I wish Ford and GM can cooperate and create a C7 Z06 with GT350 motor and transmission with Porsche 18 way adjustable seats. That way you get the better power train of the GT350 with a better weight balanced FR car.
03-23-2016, 07:12 PM
#687
[QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13133771][QUOTE=baege;13133522]
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
throttle response is crucial to the driving experience...this was reinforced for me with the C7 experience, and one reason I dislike turbo cars.
You make a good point about throttle response. Also, it's not just throttle response, it's also throttle precision / linear throttle to power delivery on Porsche's GT cars. I have never found any vehicle with better throttle precision than Porsche's GT cars.
GT350 has a pretty good throttle response above 5,000 rpm. It's pretty linear too, but only above 5,000 rpm.
throttle response is crucial to the driving experience...this was reinforced for me with the C7 experience, and one reason I dislike turbo cars.
03-23-2016, 08:02 PM
#688
Race Car
GT4 vs GT350. Totally different cars. I really enjoy both but they are different. American Muscle versus German precision. IMHO one can't/doesn't really replace the other. Some days I feel like rumbling around town and other days I feel like the precision and balance of the 4.
IF I could only have one I would get a GT3. YMMV I like the GT350 Track Pack but am working on getting an R. Hard to do but I am trying. Hopefully next GT3 will be manual! Great time to be an enthusiast.
IF I could only have one I would get a GT3.
YMMV I like the GT350 Track Pack but am working on getting an R. Hard to do but I am trying. Hopefully next GT3 will be manual! Great time to be an enthusiast.
03-23-2016, 08:29 PM
#689
GT4 vs GT350. Totally different cars. I really enjoy both but they are different. American Muscle versus German precision. IMHO one can't/doesn't really replace the other. Some days I feel like rumbling around town and other days I feel like the precision and balance of the 4.
IF I could only have one I would get a GT3. YMMV I like the GT350 Track Pack but am working on getting an R. Hard to do but I am trying. Hopefully next GT3 will be manual! Great time to be an enthusiast.
IF I could only have one I would get a GT3.
YMMV I like the GT350 Track Pack but am working on getting an R. Hard to do but I am trying. Hopefully next GT3 will be manual! Great time to be an enthusiast.well a GT3 is a still a Porsche, so I think the consensus here from a few of you fortunate people who have both is Porsche over gt350 if you have to choose just one. Who woulda thought on a Porsche forum
But that preference does speak to me, because my c7 experience confirmed for me that I am more about the precision than the rumble. Driving the c7 was more of an event in some ways, but there is no doubt which car delivered more grins per mile for me.
03-24-2016, 03:07 AM
#690
Race Car
[QUOTE=baege;13133939][QUOTE=Jooyoung99;13133771]Completely agree and this is where the Stingray let me down as did the 911 Turbo PDK I also considered. The GT350 has an instant snappy response with light taps of the foot - like my 997S in sport mode except with 526 hp and a flat plane crank V8.