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05-31-2013, 01:34 PM
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05-31-2013, 02:22 PM
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I must be blind, because your Turbo Beetle and Tucker's Turbo Beetle look the same to me:
- They are both overboosted
- They are both stripped
- They are both on huge tricky Aero kits
My Fiat came very light from the factory, no insulation, exposed metal everywhere, and it is still 200+ lbs heavier than your Turbo Beetle. My Fiat sat at 3,309 lbs on the NASA scales at the last TT I ran, your Beetle is in the low 3,000 lbs.
- They are both overboosted
- They are both stripped
- They are both on huge tricky Aero kits
My Fiat came very light from the factory, no insulation, exposed metal everywhere, and it is still 200+ lbs heavier than your Turbo Beetle. My Fiat sat at 3,309 lbs on the NASA scales at the last TT I ran, your Beetle is in the low 3,000 lbs.
Don't compare your car to mine, because you and your car are a rolling chicane to real TT1 competition. My car is 3240-3260 lbs with me in it, not sure if you are including yourself in the weight of your car or not. But regardless, our TT3 guys at Road Atlanta will wax your behind with you driving scary braking where brakes are not needed and in the wrong gear for most of the lap so you don't have to use any torque.
Legit TT1 cars are 2:12 to under 2:10 at Sebring. You need to get your weight up.
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05-31-2013, 03:42 PM
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Yes, you clearly are blind.
Don't compare your car to mine, because you and your car are a rolling chicane to real TT1 competition. My car is 3240-3260 lbs with me in it, not sure if you are including yourself in the weight of your car or not. But regardless, our TT3 guys at Road Atlanta will wax your behind with you driving scary braking where brakes are not needed and in the wrong gear for most of the lap so you don't have to use any torque.
Legit TT1 cars are 2:12 to under 2:10 at Sebring. You need to get your weight up.
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Don't compare your car to mine, because you and your car are a rolling chicane to real TT1 competition. My car is 3240-3260 lbs with me in it, not sure if you are including yourself in the weight of your car or not. But regardless, our TT3 guys at Road Atlanta will wax your behind with you driving scary braking where brakes are not needed and in the wrong gear for most of the lap so you don't have to use any torque.
Legit TT1 cars are 2:12 to under 2:10 at Sebring. You need to get your weight up.
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05-31-2013, 03:50 PM
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This thread is getting killed again.
You guys keep it up I will post 1--> 159 as well:
http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=40943
You guys keep it up I will post 1--> 159 as well:
http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=40943
05-31-2013, 04:24 PM
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This thread is getting killed again.
You guys keep it up I will post 1--> 159 as well:
http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=40943
You guys keep it up I will post 1--> 159 as well:
http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=40943
And all will be happy.
05-31-2013, 04:51 PM
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98 degrees weather, 92% humidity, 20 minutes after a thunderstorm, not a clean lap: 2:16 with a 2:14 TBL.
On 2012 PCA 48 hours weather, the same lap would be 2:13 with a 2:11 TBL.
In both cases braking for Bishop Bend, and slow through T1, as the Fiat doesn't have the Aero Kit of the cheater Aero Beetles.
With AeroKit, 100 lbs reduced and holding Bishop Bend on the gas, it would drop another 4 secs, 2:09 with me driving and 2:07 TBL.
I just have to follow the DE Cup formula, reduce weight, add power, run massive aerokits, drive flatout on all curves as the aerokit keeps the car planted and there are no skills needed.
On 2012 PCA 48 hours weather, the same lap would be 2:13 with a 2:11 TBL.
In both cases braking for Bishop Bend, and slow through T1, as the Fiat doesn't have the Aero Kit of the cheater Aero Beetles.
With AeroKit, 100 lbs reduced and holding Bishop Bend on the gas, it would drop another 4 secs, 2:09 with me driving and 2:07 TBL.
I just have to follow the DE Cup formula, reduce weight, add power, run massive aerokits, drive flatout on all curves as the aerokit keeps the car planted and there are no skills needed.
05-31-2013, 05:18 PM
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I agree that TT1 cars are capable of 2:10-2:12. Just start with a factory stock 2012 GT3 Cup 3.8, move the rev limiter, re-gear, add ALMS RSR body, RSR wheels/tires, increase ALMS RSR wing height and extension. Done!!! a $400k TT1 record car.
In the meantime, the NASA agenda at Sebring does not allow for 30 degrees days with 200 degrees soft tires, so best times are not available, and a Turbo Beetle heat soaks. Good luck trying to get in the 2:10-2:12 with 80 degrees weather.
Record is up for grabs, over a year old already, and another up for grabs at Homestead.
AMP and RRR are as far as I would drive in Georgia tracks. Road Atlanta is a messed up track layout, and boring even in my PS3 simulator.
05-31-2013, 06:40 PM
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Legit??? Like the cheater cars running in NASA-SouthEast in a Winter time trial in December with pre-warmed slicks and A6, no dyno, no scales. I bet blind that no car would pass inspection.
I agree that TT1 cars are capable of 2:10-2:12. Just start with a factory stock 2012 GT3 Cup 3.8, move the rev limiter, re-gear, add ALMS RSR body, RSR wheels/tires, increase ALMS RSR wing height and extension. Done!!! a $400k TT1 record car.
In the meantime, the NASA agenda at Sebring does not allow for 30 degrees days with 200 degrees soft tires, so best times are not available, and a Turbo Beetle heat soaks. Good luck trying to get in the 2:10-2:12 with 80 degrees weather.
Record is up for grabs, over a year old already, and another up for grabs at Homestead.
AMP and RRR are as far as I would drive in Georgia tracks. Road Atlanta is a messed up track layout, and boring even in my PS3 simulator.
I agree that TT1 cars are capable of 2:10-2:12. Just start with a factory stock 2012 GT3 Cup 3.8, move the rev limiter, re-gear, add ALMS RSR body, RSR wheels/tires, increase ALMS RSR wing height and extension. Done!!! a $400k TT1 record car.
In the meantime, the NASA agenda at Sebring does not allow for 30 degrees days with 200 degrees soft tires, so best times are not available, and a Turbo Beetle heat soaks. Good luck trying to get in the 2:10-2:12 with 80 degrees weather.
Record is up for grabs, over a year old already, and another up for grabs at Homestead.
AMP and RRR are as far as I would drive in Georgia tracks. Road Atlanta is a messed up track layout, and boring even in my PS3 simulator.
No, legit like my car, and Michael Edmonsons car and Troy Messers car, Jerry Diggs, Keith Prociuk, Gil Smith, Eric Campbell, Phil Grabow (I could go on). None have anywhere near 400k in them, but I bet all less than a Fiat Scuderia.
With a low weight penalty, sequential penalty and slicks penalty a stock 3.8 might not even make TT1. 3.6's have barely made it in.
You run Sebring all the time, the spring and fall NASA events are plenty cool enough to go fast in the mornings.
My aero beetle will not heat soak before I run circles around you. And it will still do so after it heat soaks but also before and after your clutch overheats.
You are on record as being scared of Road Atlanta. Don't try to create and alibi with AMP and RRR which are not even worth mentioning in the same sentence. hahaha.