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Old 03-03-2007, 01:19 PM
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That's precisely what it is. A quarantine camp.

Good one Bull.

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Out of the blue ran into an Music Artist @ Shinjuku Haytt just now (March 4th 2007). I was actually looking for a basketball court to play at, but I couldn't find any so I decided to check out Haytt to see if any foreigner knows... ran into Tamia & Crew checking out and heading back to Chicago!!!
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gotta love turbo... big motor + turbo = mucho power. Ford GT40 with twin turbo.

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Good article... http://www.rense.com/general75/walk.htm

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Don't 'Rage Against The
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By Michael Goodspeed
2-26-7

Increasingly, the collective attention of our nation is 100% focused toward sheer inanity. The World Series, The Super Bowl, the criminal trials of celebrities, the Academy Awards -- all garish celebrations of meaninglessness that unfailingly succeed to dominate our lives. The great bard must have seen into the future all the way to the 21st century when he wrote that life "is a tale told by an idiot filled with sound and fury signifying nothing."

Even those who have no investment in our media-generated shared illusions have little choice but to hear about them. For the last couple of weeks, I haven been unable to work out at the gym or stand in line at the grocery store without overhearing some mind-numbing gossip about the decomposing body of a former Playboy Bunny. And although I abstain almost entirely from TV, I am still visually assaulted by screaming headlines on this pseudo-story in another electronic medium, the internet -- the "news" services provided by AOL, Comcast, Yahoo, Google, etc. are even more tabloid oriented than the celebrity obsessed cable "news" leader, Fox.

I cannot mention Fox "news" without pointing out (as have many others) that it was Rupert Murdoch's brainchild that set the pervasive cable "news" trend of 24/7 tabloid coverage. Although the OJ Simpson trial had already gotten things moving in the wrong direction, Fox has pushed unrelentingly over the invisible line that separates news and entertainment. One can be certain that with cold-blooded calculation, the Fox execs measure in minutiae which stories reliably create ratings spikes. They obviously found that the ones that perform best are lightweight celebrity gossip (Anna-Nicole Smith, Britney Spears, etc.) and titillating true crime mostly involving extremely attractive young women (Laci Peterson, Natalee Holloway, Debra Lafave, etc.). And CNN and MSNBC have predictably followed suit, abandoning even a pretense of dignity in their desperate effort to keep pace. The primetime line-ups of every cable news network now consist of talking heads discussing lightweight courtroom drama, showbiz fodder, and for more "substantive" banter, divisive and banal political debates straight down the demarcated lines of neo-conservatism and liberalism.

Whether or not media drive the culture or merely reflect it, the sad reality is that they would not succeed in marketing meaninglessness if the public wasn't buying. All media -- TV, film, radio, internet, video games, and even print -- display less and less moral and ethical restraint because they have no incentive to -- taking the high road is not a reliable way to make money in Entertainment. Several weeks ago a woman actually died in a radio "water drinking" contest. When warned by callers of the contests' potentially lethal consequences, one DJ replied, "They signed releases, so we're not responsible. We're OK."

Bored minds unfamiliar with meaning can only seek amusement in the base and the profane. In the U.S. the underground video series "Bumfights" features pre-meditated physical violence toward and between homeless people. The producers of Bumfights claim to have sold HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of copies. And evidence exists that these videos have inspired real-life murders of the homeless. CNN.com reports that teen "sport killings" of the homeless are on the rise: "Criminologists call these wilding sprees 'sport killing,' -- largely middle-class teens, with no criminal records, assaulting the homeless with bats, golf clubs, paintball guns....Some teens have even taped themselves in the act. Others have said they were inspired by 'Bumfights,' a video series created in 2002 and sold on the Web that features homeless people pummeling each other for the promise of a few bucks." Story: (http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/02/19/homeless.attacks/)

When the "news" channels spend 45 minutes of an hour discussing a celebrity's dead body, they have nearly sunk to Bumfights level of sickness and depravity. Not only are they failing in their duty to inform and educate the public, they are sinking a knife into a cultural wound and twisting the handle. And this wound is our shared obsession with the inane, moronic, grotesque and murderous.

But for clarity, this essay is not solely intended as an indictment of media. From my perspective, media are feeding, worsening, and profiting from deep-seeded sicknesses endemic to our very Way of Life. With or without media, mainstream American culture is so fundamentally damaged and malformed that life within it is no longer tenable.

If the culture can be compared to a machine, it can be said that ours is malfunctioning with key parts missing, broken and/or misaligned. It is no longer a question of "if" the cultural machine is going to implode and die, it is already hiccupping smoke and the sparks are flying. To rage against this dying machine or try to keep it alive are now both futile. All that's is left to walk away before it's too late.

Our culture is fated to die because every official institution directing it has irredeemably failed us. Religion has failed us -- in our allegedly Christian nation, the actual teachings of Christ (unconditional non-judgment, charity, lovingness, pacifism, and devotion to a purely benevolent Father) are barely a rumor amongst Christian leadership. Public education has failed us -- even the increasingly embarrassing raw statistics (pathetic test scores, abysmal graduation rates) provide but the barest glimpse into the apocalypse of intellect that consumes American youth. The sciences have failed us -- models built on unsound or refuted theory (namely the Big Bang and Darwin's theory of evolution) are routinely paraded as inarguable facts, while alternative models that are easily proved through the scientific method -- models that could significantly improve our understanding of the Universe and our quality of life -- are dismissed by scientists out of narrow-mindedness and self-serving interest. "Our" government has failed us in ways too countless to enumerate -- elected and unelected officials have abandoned their most fundamental duty, to ensure the safety of its citizenry, i.e. protect "national security." The deliberately unchecked illegal alien invasion has permeated our land with criminals and untold numbers of possible terrorists. And all the while, young Americans and innocent Iraqi citizens are still dying every day in "our" government's self-styled attempt "to keep America safe."

Speaking of the failure to keep Americans safe, no one has failed the public trust more outrageously than the folks at the Food and Drug Administration. There was a time when mainstream news media characterized the "alleged" unholy alliance between the FDA and Big Drugs as a kind of conspiracy theory (certainly, most talk of the aspartame epidemic has always been in this vane). This characterization was abandoned by most after the very public Vioxx scandal of 2004. Not much can be said in defense of the FDA when someone like Dr. Richard Horton, editor of the medical journal The Lancet, writes, "...with Vioxx, Merck and the FDA acted out of ruthless, short-sighted, and irresponsible self-interest." And it is because of this "ruthless self-interest" that our grocery stores and our pharmacies are latent with brain damaging, cancer causing and otherwise deadly chemicals that have poisoned and possibly killed untold millions. Any talk of personal freedom in our nation is irrelevant when "our" government actively prevents us from knowing what we are putting into our own bodies!

If my point isn't clear to you, let me sum it up as neatly as possible: any person who follows the seemingly normal, mainstream American Way of Life is heading down a path toward devastation and death. A child in the U.S. whose well-meaning parents simply do what is currently considered acceptable -- send him to a public school (where he'll learn nothing and likely be feasted upon by bullies), feed him an All-American diet consisting of the "four food groups," diet soda, and fluoridated water, take him to a church where he'll be told that he's going to hell, feed him his doctor prescribed ADHD medications, and plop him in front of the TV for his daily "entertainment" -- is condemning the child to a lifetime of agony. Premature death is of course also possible, and in some instances, this may actually be a mercy.

If I seem angry, I insist that I'm not. I abandoned anger years ago because it is inherently futile, impotent, and feeds the anger of others. But I am exasperated and offended, because many of the solutions to our collective miseries seem so obvious. In my opinion (and the opinion of many naturalistic health experts) most of our national health epidemics -- obesity, heart disease, cancer, depression, addiction, and even criminal violence -- could be virtually eradicated through simple nutritional changes. In the hit documentary film "Super Size Me," director Morgan Spurlock presented the eye-opening case of an alternative high school that all but eliminated the problem students' behavioral difficulties through improved diet and exercise.

When the school (Appleton Central Alternative Charter High School) first opened, the only "nutrition" available to students was typical vending machine snacks and beverages. When the school staff noticed an apparent connection between the kids' poor nutrition and their behavior problems, they chose to develop a relationship with Natural Ovens Bakery, a producer of foods and beverages free of preservatives, partially-hydrogenated fats, dough conditioners and bromated flour. They began offering students a healthy breakfast and lunch, while simultaneously removing all vending machines and replacing them with water coolers. Additionally, the students were encouraged to exercise, gaining access to fitness equipment and YMCA passes. The result: a reported marked improvement in student behavior and performance. (A case study on this nutrition and wellness program can be read here: www.greenearthinstitute.org/nutrition/Documents/ ACACaseStudyFinalVersion.doc)

So why doesn't EVERY school implement the changes that apparently worked so well for the Appleton school? As with many things in life, the answer is simple: the vast majority of schools feel dependent on revenue from the sales of lunches, snacks, and beverages that have no nutritional value.

Of course, if Washington lawmakers had any real integrity or consciousness, they would find a way to mandate the national implementation of similar nutritional and exercise programs in all public schools. But they won't, because the big food and beverage companies have billions at their disposal to employ high-powered lobbyists. And some lawmakers may even think they're doing the right thing. I suspect that in what passes for President Bush's mind, growth for companies like Coca Cola and MacDonald's is wonderful for America. Our economy is ALL about growth -- if a company earns billions of dollars in revenue, fattens its stockholders, employs a gazillion low-wage workers who otherwise might be jobless and homeless, and sends the government a king's ransom in taxes, in one sense they are causing the economy to grow. But if the product from which they make a fortune is sickening and killing people, the long-term economic cost will be catastrophic (as demonstrated by the burdens the obesity, heart disease, and cancer epidemics have placed on our health care system). And no dollar figure can measure the cost to human life.

Did I state just a moment ago that I'm not angry? OK, I take that back. I feel myself surrendering to an impotent rage because I think all this misery is so unnecessary. From my perspective, the lives we are living are not "normal," they are aberrations of nature. Our favorite national pastime in the 21st century is not outdoor recreation or reading or gardening or painting or any activity that could reasonably be described as constructive to life. It is vicarious titillation and ego empowerment through celebrities on television. We have all succumbed to this shared illusion at some point in our lives. And if that's not collective insanity, I don't know what is.

Trudging through a suburban social mecca like a shopping mall, a movie theater, or (God forbid) a sports bar, I feel little or not possibility of connection with my fellow humans. We are so contracted into our personal hells that we can barely look each other in the eye anymore. Most of us are so diminished by the toil of work (generally with too-low pay and no sense of meaning), our unhealthy lifestyles (no exercise, poor nutrition), the weight of familial responsibilities, no sense of community, the mind-numbing effects of electronic "communication" and entertainment, and the total deprivation of beauty in the surrounding culture that we feel unable to extend to one another a bridge to fellowship.

Of course Anna-Nicole Smith fascinates us. To focus our attention on something good and meaningful might remind us of the void where our souls used to be.

But please forgive my anger, because I don't wish to inspire it in others. I wish to inspire the only action for which (in my opinion) there remains any reasonable justification. And that is to walk away. Let our cultural machine die its natural and inevitable death and refuse to let it claim you as another casualty.

How does one walk away from this machine? Obviously, the degree to which one is prepared to remove oneself from mainstream culture varies from person to person. It is no secret that many people have successfully abdicated the mainstream existence, selling most of their personal assets, quitting their jobs, moving themselves and their families to secluded natural environments, home schooling their kids, and sustaining themselves through private business (such as private farming). Increasing numbers of Americans are also exploring eco-communities and co-housing projects that exist completely off the grid, and live entirely on their own organically grown foods. These actions may seem too extreme and/or infeasible to many, but everyone can take steps to protect themselves and their loved ones from the cultural apocalypse.

In my case, I have amputated myself from the cultural machinery to the absolute best of my ability. I watch virtually no television (I would watch ZERO if I did not live with a person who still occasionally enjoys it), I eat a diet that is almost 100% organic (a task nowhere near as difficult or costly as I had once believed), I no longer buy tickets to Hollywood movies shown at multiplexes (the flicks are mostly soul-poisoning garbage, and the theaters earn most of their revenue from sales of junk food and junk beverages), I am vigilant to contribute NO money to the companies that I believe inflict suffering and death on innocent people, and I earn money (not a lot, but enough) from creative endeavors that I believe will contribute in some way to the betterment of humanity.

And perhaps most importantly, I abstain from unprotected sex, and will not consider having a family unless or until I am no longer a citizen of the United States. I am sorry if that resonates as "un-American," but even disregarding overpopulation, I cannot imagine a more reckless act of negligence than bringing another soul into this unending nightmare.

The cultural machine generates our nightmare, but we will not awaken by raging against it or fighting it with force. It's irrational to hate a machine but one should certainly be wary of it, because it can maim and kill when it spins out of control. Just bid it adieu and WALK AWAY. Turn to it your back, shun it, and you won't even hear its faint sputtering and death rattle as its pointless existence winds to an inglorious end.

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This is a very good article about the current state of martial arts in Taiwan. I'm very sad to hear about this. I have met couple of Taiwanese martial arts teachers and they all tell me nobody in Taiwan is currently interested in the real martial arts. It is a shame... but at the same time, I'm also very excited. Because this is some thing I can help promote as well.... anyways.... read on.

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http://www.talesofasia.com/rs-138-taiwanmartial.htm

Taiwan, Foreigners Preserve and Update the Martial Arts

by Antonio Graceffo

September 9, 2006

In a country with no NASCAR racing and tight gun control laws, how do men bond? The answer is simple. They get together every Wednesday night and pound the daylights out of each other.

While training in Taiwan, I attended the inauguration of Fight Club Kaohsiung, which is sponsored by Mindful Phoenix Arts Group. The group teaches classes in drama, kung fu, arts, and language. They have a comedy troupe and perform both comedy sports and traditional theater. Now, they are expanding their teaching to include classes for Taiwanese children, as well as adventure outings for Taiwanese young people.

I got in the ring with a very large, and scary looking man named Mike, who weighed 110 kilos. I held my own, boxing him, for a bit, but then he ran into me, like a steamroller, knocking me to the ground, and jumped on top of me. When the ref managed to coax the big man off of my prostrate form, he explained. "We allow grappling in fight club."

"Of course." I gasped.

Taiwan, possessing a predominantly ethnic Chinese culture, has historically been very strong in kung fu, particularly in Tai Chi. In recent years, hard-style kung fu, kicking, forms, and Wu Su, have lost in popularity, while Tae Kwan Do and Twe So (pushing hands) have gained. As a result, the quality of fighters among ethnic Chinese, has dropped off dramatically. Taiwan has earned recognition in international Tae Kwan Do competitions, with Taiwanese athletes displaying amazing agility, with high kicks and leaps. But real fighting, Chinese San Da (kick boxing) has all but disappeared. As the Island made the climb, from developing nation, to the ninth largest economy in the world, parents pushed their children to learn computers and business, rather than fighting.

Foreigners, meaning westerners, who live and work in Taiwan seem to be the people most focused on reviving and developing the martial arts. Thousands of English teachers are imported each year, given lucrative contracts, many of which include housing, and most work only 25 hours per week. In their off time, many have a desire to practice martial arts.

Sebastian Thomas, the founder of Mindful Phoenix, said, "I have practiced and taught Kung fu my whole life. I left my school in Australia, and came to Taiwan, hoping to study kung Fu. I pictured training on the beach with some old guy, who would tell me stories about his daring escape from the Shaolin Temple. After I had proven myself, he would ask me to marry his daughter, and I would carry on teaching his art after he died."

"Did you find an old guy like that?" I asked.

"I found an old guy, but he just wanted to sell me knock-off electronics at bargain basement prices." Said Thomas, sadly.

"So, what did you do?"

"I bought a DVD player from him, and saved fifty bucks. Then I opened my Kung fu school."

The foreign teachers in Taiwan come from a variety of martial arts backgrounds. A group which shares Thomas’ space is practicing Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. As none of them is a certified instructor, they work from books and videos, meeting nearly everyday to figure out and practice the techniques. In Taipei another, more organized BJJ group pooled their cash and hired Andy ****, a high ranking BJJ practitioner. Andy, along with his brother who is also a professional fighter, assembled an impressive MMA record, even fighting in the UFC.

Godfrey Zweigert, a martial arts instructor from France who owns a Japanese martial arts school in Taipei, has now expanded the curriculum to include kickboxing and grappling. Between the various clubs, all lead by foreigners, they have managed to organize both a BJJ circuit and an MMA circuit in Taiwan. Real fighting is still in its infancy in Taiwan, but the influx of foreigners has breathed new life into a sport that would otherwise have disappeared.

In each class, among the huge foreigners, some of whom weigh in at 100 KG, you will always find a few Chinese students, both men and women. Many Taiwanese women say they only feel welcomed in the foreign-owned martial arts schools, as the Chinese ones were historically for men.

The martial arts began in Asia, spread to the west, and now are being brought back to Taiwan, but transformed and flavored by the many countries where they were temporarily stored.

Cable TV from Japan brings the island all sorts of fighting sports, new and old, like UFC, KOTC, Pride, Bushido, K-1, Pancrase, and Rings. The Japanese, as much as they are mired in tradition, seem to have embraced the new developments in martial arts, and these shows have become big money makers in Japan. Taiwan usually follows Japan’s lead. Hopefully, Taiwan will make it onto the radar screens of international competition.

One of the interesting twists in the development of the martial arts in Taiwan, is that foreigners have found new uses for old techniques. The BJJ guys were combing their submissions with the Tae Kwan Do kicks widely taught on the island. Many of the foreign martial artists have studies in Thailand, so they were teaching Thai head clinch throws, which were being taught alongside Chinese San Da waist throws. Muay Thai elbows were being practiced on the ground. And Tai Chi (Twe So) pushes were being used in dirty boxing.

"Through Twe So, you develop such a sensitivity to your opponent’s balance," explained one New Yorker, "You just wait till his weight is right, and instead of punching, you push. Or when they reach for you, you go limp, and let them pull themselves to the floor."

In my own bout, I was having a tough time. Since I am primarily a boxer, when I am fighting in Asia, I try and close distance, to neutralize their kicks. Once inside, I punch. But fighting a grappler was problematic, because every time I got close enough to punch, he grabbed me and took me down. Once again, being a boxer, I am not used to hitting the canvass more than once per fight. Those body slams took a lot out of me. For the first time in my fighting history, my strategy was to stay as far away as possible from the bigger man, and low kick him.

In between bouts I got a chance to talk to Sebastian Thomas, the group’s founder and leader. "What does fighting have to do with arts?" I asked.

"Mindful Phoenix is about teaching people, and helping them to grow." Said Thomas, with his Australian accent, ala Paul Hogan. "That includes teaching them acting, languages, creativity, and martial arts."

‘Fighting is part of martial arts. Besides, with no kangaroos to chase, what are men going to do in their off time?" he said.

The Fight Club attendees were primarily men from Thomas’ kung fu school and from the Kaohsiung Jiu-Jitsu team. Several women came as well, but only to watch. Thomas said that the event is open to women, and they would be welcome to come and fight. He also said that the door was open to non-martial artists.

"We are all here for different reasons." Said Thomas. He explained that the jiu-jitsu team guys were looking for a chance to improve their striking skills, so that they could be more competitive in Mixed Martial Arts fighting events. The kung fu guys were looking for an opportunity to challenge themselves, and to use the techniques they had practiced in class. "If someone who has no training wants to come in and try it out, he is more than welcome. But I would prefer he starts out by hitting the pads and moving around a bit first, before getting in he ring." Thomas went on to say. "What I would hope is that he might not be interested in martial arts when he gets here, but he would be interested in martial arts when he leaves."

The atmosphere of Fight Club was definitely positive. Friendships are made very easily among athletes, but even more so among fighters. There is something about getting a fat lip or swollen nose that binds you to your opponent for life.

"We’re not about hurting each other here." Said Thomas. "It’s about practicing and helping. If your opponent is a little better than you, then it will force you to work harder and to improve. If he isn’t as good as you, then you become a teacher, and help him to learn." Thomas makes all of his students, even beginners, teach lessons. It is a way of teaching self-confidence and helping them to feel knowledgeable.

The opponents decide, at the start of the bout, what rules they want to have. Some of the fights were only boxing. Others were kicking and boxing. Still others included grappling and floor work. The opponents wear gloves and mouth guards. For boxing-only bouts, they wore ten-ounce boxing gloves. For mixed martial arts, which included grappling, they wore fingerless fighting gloves. No matter what the rules, Thomas stressed control, consideration, and care.

"It doesn’t help anyone to get in there and get hurt." Said Thomas. He and I have fought a number of bouts, and I can attest to his control, as I know that he could easily cave in a man’s skull with a single kick. And yet, I watched him get in the ring with a total beginner and not injure him. "If you get in there and have a nice controlled fight, you can fight again next week, and improve."

The center offers a number of services, besides fighting. They have a theater, a studio, yoga classes, internet, a lending library for books and films, and much more.

The group wishes to be a cross-cultural bridge. Their stated goal is to "Combine the Eastern discipline and tradition with Western freedom of expression."

If you have some stress you need to work out, or if you just feel like pounding on someone, you can check out the fight club. They meet every Wednesday evening, at eight o’clock. You could contact Thomas at his website at mindfulphoenix.com If you want to train or fight in taipei contact Godfrey Zweigert godfrey@ettis.com

Checkout Antonio’s website http://speakingadventure.com/

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The Monk from Brooklyn
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The Desert of Death on Three Wheels
Adventures in Formosa

Contact the author at: antonio_graceffo@hotmail.com
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I think that "what you are missing" (though in reality we all know that only Francis is missing it) is that Frank is not a student of anything. Most here respect students as, no matter how much they know, they always understand there is so much more to learn. A student is both humble and helpful.

Then there is Frank. Very limited racing experience, but he is an expert. Very limited understanding of archeology and he is an expert. Very limited understanding of history and he is an expert. Very limited understanding of Martial Arts and he is an expert. Very limited understanding of life...
I am an expert in high performance driving (12 years of experience), as well as teaching it (6 years of experience, many students). I'm a NOVICE w2w racer with limited w2w seat time. Get that pops?
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Of course not. They use Akmee Engineering products.
No you dumb ***, it is under prepared because both cars have not been prepped to what the rules is allowed. Such as fully built engines... and the best suspension components that is allowed...
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I am an expert in high performance driving (12 years of experience), as well as teaching it (6 years of experience, many students). I'm a NOVICE w2w racer with limited w2w seat time. Get that pops?

An expert?

You actually have the nerve to claim that after posting your droving videos here?

Francis, YOU SUCK on track, plain & simple.

You are an expert in nothing more than mouting off, ****ing up others' cars, and getting kicked out of every group you have ever instructed for, homeslice.

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No you dumb ***, it is under prepared because both cars have not been prepped to what the rules is allowed. Such as fully built engines... and the best suspension components that is allowed...
AND, GhettoRumper plans to keep it that way so as not to eliminate one of his key excuses for SUCKING on every track!
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SO BULL****ter, are you coming to GCC or you just gonna keep on running your mouth? I haven't heard that you are committed...
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SO BULL, Owner of GhettoRacer, are you coming to GCC or you just gonna keep on running your mouth? I haven't heard that you are committed...
Michael Jackson has a better chance of receiving money, for anything that has to do with children, than you do! I suspect I am not the only one who feels that way............
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Is that your excuse?
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*sob sob* poor baby girl. RIP.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...461301,00.html

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Tuesday March 6, 2007 4:16 PM

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By EMILY UDELL

Associated Press Writer

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) - By the time Beth Johnson rushed to tell police that she suspected her ex-husband had abducted their 8-year-old daughter, it was too late. Eric Johnson had already strapped Emily into the passenger seat of a leased single-engine Cessna and taken off, police said. Moments later, the aircraft slammed into the side of his former mother-in-law's house.

Johnson, 47, and his daughter died in the crash, which investigators suspect was intentional. Federal authorities on Tuesday were in southern Indiana trying to figure out what led up to that devastating crash.

``It is just gut-wrenching to think about what was happening to that child just prior to the crash,'' State Police 1st Sgt. Dave Bursten said.

Emily didn't go to school Monday, and her mother arrived at the Bedford police headquarters about 11:30 a.m. to say she believed her ex-husband had abducted the girl, Bursten said.

By then, investigators already were examining the wreckage of the plane crash at the home of her mother, Vivian Pace, in Bedford, about 20 miles south of Bloomington.

Bursten said Tuesday that police understood the father and daughter had been on a trip. He said Beth Johnson gave specific information about an alleged abduction, but he declined to release details.

``All of those things together lead us in the direction that this was done intentionally,'' he said Tuesday.

Before the pilot was identified, Pace told The Times-Mail newspaper that she was in the living room when the plane struck the side of her one-story home. She said everything fell off the walls. Pace wasn't injured, and the crash into a side wall did not start a fire.

Bursten said eyewitness accounts of the plane's movements just before the crash led police to suspect the crash was deliberate, as did the relationships involved.

``I thought he would do something to get back at Beth,'' Pace said. ``He was a very possessive person. He got what he wanted.''

State and Bedford police were treating the criminal investigation as a suicide and homicide, Bursten said. No note of explanation had yet been found, Bursten said. He said authorities hoped to have a better understanding of what happened and why after the National Transportation Safety Board completes its investigation, which could take up to a year.

At Parkview Primary School in Bedford, where Emily was a first-grader, counselors were called in to help the students, Principal Sari Wood said Tuesday.

``We're all grieving over this,'' Wood said. She described Emily as a ``dear little girl'' who ``got a kick out of things and enjoyed life.''

``She just was one of those really friendly, really open little kids,'' Wood said.
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