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Old 05-25-2018, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by to_riffic_day
Yes and now it's shifting to the ADM/allocation thread instead. lol
That's probably even worse than discussing politics
Old 05-25-2018, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by noahsgoldman



@whoopsy am I looking at two different cars or two different bumpers?
Weird that they both ready have the Porsche badge on the hood already.

2 different cars with 2 different bumpers.

One of them will be pretty much the one one can buy. The other one, well, it's missing some bits and the bumper is also wrong.
Old 05-25-2018, 01:59 PM
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Hmmm so then:
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
You guys really already had most of what needed to be found out haha

To sumarize

There should be 4 variants of GT4 one is a race car and one is a open top. GT4 Coupe, GT4 Spyder, GT4 RS Coupe and GT4 Club Sport (or equivalent race car)

2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one. GT4 Coupe, GT4 Spyder and GT4 CS share and the GT4 RS has own

3 different transmissions, 2 share 1, then the other 2 each have their own. GT4 Coupe and Spyder share a Manual Transmission, GT4 RS Coupe has PDK-S and GT4 CS has Sequential

3 of them have 400+ HP and a redline line north of 7k. The other one well, it's also 400+hp and with a redline higher than 7k GT4 Coupe, GT4 Spyder and GT4 CS for the +7k and GT4 RS higher

I think that's all one needed to know isn't it?
Old 05-25-2018, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
You guys really already had most of what needed to be found out haha

To sumarize

There should be 4 variants of GT4 one is a race car and one is a open top.

2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one.

3 different transmissions, 2 share 1, then the other 2 each have their own.

3 of them have 400+ HP and a redline line north of 7k. The other one well, it's also 400+hp and with a redline higher than 7k

I think that's all one needed to know isn't it?
Price and intro dates is all I can think of. Including that figment of ones imagination unicorn.
Old 05-25-2018, 02:06 PM
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Now the big question is timing... Rumors are all over the board... Paris (September), LA (Late November) and Geneva (Spring 2019). I have heard from multiple sources (Dealer Owner, PEC) that it won't debut until next year.
We all know that the RS will debut later... question is how much later? A year? similar to GT3/RS spacing? Hmmm.
Old 05-25-2018, 02:14 PM
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Thanks Whoopsy. That comment seemed to have had the intended result.

Originally Posted by Whoopsy
You guys really already had most of what needed to be found out haha

To sumarize

There should be 4 variants of GT4 one is a race car and one is a open top.
GT4 Coupe, GT4 RS are the regular ones. The GT4 CS is the racecar, Spyder being the open top (cloth top).

2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one.
GT4 Coupe, Spyder and GT4 CS share the same engine (evolution of the 3.8 from the 981 GT4) and the GT4 RS has a different one (4.0L from the GT3). I would love this to be wrong and instead have the GT4 Coupe, GT4 CS and GT4 RS have the same engine with the Spyder having the different engine.

3 different transmissions, 2 share 1, then the other 2 each have their own.
GT4 Coupe and Spyder have the manual transmission with the GT4 CS having the sequential and the RS having PDK.

3 of them have 400+ HP and a redline line north of 7k. The other one well, it's also 400+hp and with a redline higher than 7k
GT4 Coupe, GT4 CS and Spyder have 420 HP (cannabis eating horse) and a redline of 7700 (Lucky 7s). The other one being the RS having a lot more than 420 HP and a redline much higher than 7K (Closer to 9K).

Only thing we want to know here is if the 3 cars having a redline over 7K RPM has a redline higher than the 981 GT4. That's the only thing we still need to know. Having a lower redline than the 981 GT4 or just a 100 RPM more is not significant I would think.

I think that's all one needed to know isn't it?
Old 05-25-2018, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsy
That's probably even worse than discussing politics
They're both very close though.
Old 05-25-2018, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 63A 981510
Hmmm so then:
3 different transmissions, 2 share 1, then the other 2 each have their own. GT4 Coupe and Spyder share a Manual Transmission, GT4 RS Coupe has PDK-S and GT4 CS has Sequential
Just one clarification, Sequential is banned in the GT4 class without special permission so the RS and CS would, with high probability, both be PDK.
Old 05-25-2018, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sonorous
Just one clarification, Sequential is banned in the GT4 class without special permission so the RS and CS would, with high probability, both be PDK.
My guess is the 3 transmissions will be Manual (GT4 and Spyder), PDK (ClubSport and maybe optional in GT4 and Spyder), and PDK-S (RS)
Old 05-25-2018, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by to_riffic_day
Yes and now it's shifting to the ADM/allocation thread instead. lol
What's not to like about a +$20,000 ADM and another (potential) $20,000 in tariffs?
lol
Old 05-25-2018, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Gatte
Thanks Whoopsy. That comment seemed to have had the intended result.
" 2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one.
GT4 Coupe, Spyder and GT4 CS share the same engine (evolution of the 3.8 from the 981 GT4) and the GT4 RS has a different one (4.0L from the GT3). I would love this to be wrong and instead have the GT4 Coupe, GT4 CS and GT4 RS have the same engine with the Spyder having the different engine. "

But why would they put the "lesser" engine in the race car? Cost?

The race car's engine has to be based on a current production engine but if there's two variants of the GT4 that's not an issue.
Old 05-25-2018, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JMartinni
" 2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one.
GT4 Coupe, Spyder and GT4 CS share the same engine (evolution of the 3.8 from the 981 GT4) and the GT4 RS has a different one (4.0L from the GT3). I would love this to be wrong and instead have the GT4 Coupe, GT4 CS and GT4 RS have the same engine with the Spyder having the different engine. "

But why would they put the "lesser" engine in the race car? Cost?

The race car's engine has to be based on a current production engine but if there's two variants of the GT4 that's not an issue.
That's why I get the sense the GT4RS won't get produced, at least not in this generation or at any kind of more-than-vip volume. If it was in the pipeline I assume Porsche would homologate the clubsport based on the RS rather then GT4....
Old 05-25-2018, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JMartinni
" 2 different engines, 3 share one and the other one have the other one.
GT4 Coupe, Spyder and GT4 CS share the same engine (evolution of the 3.8 from the 981 GT4) and the GT4 RS has a different one (4.0L from the GT3). I would love this to be wrong and instead have the GT4 Coupe, GT4 CS and GT4 RS have the same engine with the Spyder having the different engine. "

But why would they put the "lesser" engine in the race car? Cost?

The race car's engine has to be based on a current production engine but if there's two variants of the GT4 that's not an issue.
Because per regulations the GT4 CS needs to have a engine that is in production? Just a guess. The RS has not been approved yet for production and if it is it would come at a later date... which would mean the CS would get the engine later.
Old 05-25-2018, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ajw45
That's why I get the sense the GT4RS won't get produced, at least not in this generation or at any kind of more-than-vip volume. If it was in the pipeline I assume Porsche would homologate the clubsport based on the RS rather then GT4....
I agree with you. Speculating further, could simply be that the GT4 and GT4 CS were 100% approved internally for release, where the RS was only partially approved. Using the RS engine for the CS would mean a full internal commitment to production for homologation, and Porsche was not ready to make that commitment, but needed to get the CS out for the 2019 season...
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Originally Posted by sonorous
Just one clarification, Sequential is banned in the GT4 class without special permission so the RS and CS would, with high probability, both be PDK.
Good to know... Thanks for the correction.


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