Orthojoe's GT4 track thread and ramblings
07-18-2016, 03:09 PM
#691
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A poem for going faster in a GT4....
" To post better times here,
you must find a way to 2nd gear.
Push, push, and push even more
narrow front tires are problems core.
Listen to me, and don't hate,
just find 2nd and rotate.
On the throttle, raise your nose,
Off the throttle, there she goes.
Rotate hard, now you can turn,
unwind and let her burn."
" To post better times here,
you must find a way to 2nd gear.
Push, push, and push even more
narrow front tires are problems core.
Listen to me, and don't hate,
just find 2nd and rotate.
On the throttle, raise your nose,
Off the throttle, there she goes.
Rotate hard, now you can turn,
unwind and let her burn."
07-18-2016, 03:44 PM
#692
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Nice Matt 
07-19-2016, 03:12 AM
#695
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
A poem for going faster in a GT4....
" To post better times here,
you must find a way to 2nd gear.
Push, push, and push even more
narrow front tires are problems core.
Listen to me, and don't hate,
just find 2nd and rotate.
On the throttle, raise your nose,
Off the throttle, there she goes.
Rotate hard, now you can turn,
unwind and let her burn."
" To post better times here,
you must find a way to 2nd gear.
Push, push, and push even more
narrow front tires are problems core.
Listen to me, and don't hate,
just find 2nd and rotate.
On the throttle, raise your nose,
Off the throttle, there she goes.
Rotate hard, now you can turn,
unwind and let her burn."
I think that the front end bites and turns in better in 2nd gear because the higher revs engine brake the car more, shifts the weight forward and does some 'natural' trail braking for you....?
07-19-2016, 03:38 AM
#696
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LOL. Wait until I post my video and data from Sonoma. You'll love the use of 2nd gear on that course
I think that the front end bites and turns in better in 2nd gear because the higher revs engine brake the car more, shifts the weight forward and does some 'natural' trail braking for you....?
I think that the front end bites and turns in better in 2nd gear because the higher revs engine brake the car more, shifts the weight forward and does some 'natural' trail braking for you....?
where is sonoma video
?
07-19-2016, 10:40 AM
#698
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by doba_s
I think it's easier to rotate in 2nd vs 3rd mainly due to being in higher rpm and torque range which helps to rotate the car.
where is sonoma video ?
where is sonoma video
?
07-19-2016, 10:54 AM
#699
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07-21-2016, 01:12 PM
#700
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I think that the front end bites and turns in better in 2nd gear because the higher revs engine brake the car more, shifts the weight forward and does some 'natural' trail braking for you....?
07-22-2016, 11:29 PM
#702
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I have some new videos to post finally.
First one is another Thunderhill event on the 3 mile course. I was hoping to grab a new PB, but 100+ temps prevented that from happening. I did start using 2nd gear for T10 and T14 (not shown in this clip) and the car rotates much easier in 2nd
2 days later I took the car to Sonoma Raceway. Hoping for sub 1:50 times, I wasn't really happy with 1:51.0. I didn't deserve it, though. Too much hesitation in corners where I should be putting down more power. Leaving way too much room at the exit of turns. I need more practice and confidence at this track.
Look for the LO and voodoo blue 991RS at the end. Props to those guys for at least taking the car to the track. Took advantage of 2nd gear going into T2 and T4. 2nd gear FTW.
Data overlay of a 1:52.5 in my 987 boxster spyder (red) vs. 1:51.0 in my GT4 (blue). It doesn't look like I'm taking advantage of the power in the car much. I'm short shifting too much (although I did in the spyder as well).
First one is another Thunderhill event on the 3 mile course. I was hoping to grab a new PB, but 100+ temps prevented that from happening. I did start using 2nd gear for T10 and T14 (not shown in this clip) and the car rotates much easier in 2nd
2 days later I took the car to Sonoma Raceway. Hoping for sub 1:50 times, I wasn't really happy with 1:51.0. I didn't deserve it, though. Too much hesitation in corners where I should be putting down more power. Leaving way too much room at the exit of turns. I need more practice and confidence at this track.
Look for the LO and voodoo blue 991RS at the end. Props to those guys for at least taking the car to the track. Took advantage of 2nd gear going into T2 and T4. 2nd gear FTW.
Data overlay of a 1:52.5 in my 987 boxster spyder (red) vs. 1:51.0 in my GT4 (blue). It doesn't look like I'm taking advantage of the power in the car much. I'm short shifting too much (although I did in the spyder as well).
07-23-2016, 11:55 AM
#703
I have some new videos to post finally.
First one is another Thunderhill event on the 3 mile course. I was hoping to grab a new PB, but 100+ temps prevented that from happening. I did start using 2nd gear for T10 and T14 (not shown in this clip) and the car rotates much easier in 2nd
Thunderhill in GT4 again - YouTube
2 days later I took the car to Sonoma Raceway. Hoping for sub 1:50 times, I wasn't really happy with 1:51.0. I didn't deserve it, though. Too much hesitation in corners where I should be putting down more power. Leaving way too much room at the exit of turns. I need more practice and confidence at this track.
Look for the LO and voodoo blue 991RS at the end. Props to those guys for at least taking the car to the track. Took advantage of 2nd gear going into T2 and T4. 2nd gear FTW.
GT4 at Sonoma Raceway - YouTube
Data overlay of a 1:52.5 in my 987 boxster spyder (red) vs. 1:51.0 in my GT4 (blue). It doesn't look like I'm taking advantage of the power in the car much. I'm short shifting too much (although I did in the spyder as well).
First one is another Thunderhill event on the 3 mile course. I was hoping to grab a new PB, but 100+ temps prevented that from happening. I did start using 2nd gear for T10 and T14 (not shown in this clip) and the car rotates much easier in 2nd
Thunderhill in GT4 again - YouTube
2 days later I took the car to Sonoma Raceway. Hoping for sub 1:50 times, I wasn't really happy with 1:51.0. I didn't deserve it, though. Too much hesitation in corners where I should be putting down more power. Leaving way too much room at the exit of turns. I need more practice and confidence at this track.
Look for the LO and voodoo blue 991RS at the end. Props to those guys for at least taking the car to the track. Took advantage of 2nd gear going into T2 and T4. 2nd gear FTW.
GT4 at Sonoma Raceway - YouTube
Data overlay of a 1:52.5 in my 987 boxster spyder (red) vs. 1:51.0 in my GT4 (blue). It doesn't look like I'm taking advantage of the power in the car much. I'm short shifting too much (although I did in the spyder as well).
07-23-2016, 12:59 PM
#704
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
I'm going to get on my soap box a bit here because it's a controversial and dividing issue for some. I know people who scoff at anyone who leaves it on and disregards them as a driver completely. I know people who used to hate ESC but now leave it on because the system works so well. The fastest lap done at thunderhill (1:58.2) in a GT4 by one of the best drivers in the area was done with ESC on. Nobody has beaten that time.
I leave it on because it's a safety net for me and allows me to probe the limits of the car more easily without having to rely on something imperfect (me) to save things if things go south. I remember mistakenly running over a wet berm on the entry for T10 at sonoma once with my GT3. The car started to violently break loose, but ESC saved it. Losing control of the car at that turn usually ends up with a totaled car. The 'proud' ESC off driver might have saved it and thumped his chest afterwards. However, he might not have been able to and ended up with a balled up car. The ESC off zealot will tell me that I'm not good enough to drive a fast car and should be driving a cheap/slow car that I can afford to ball up. However, he forgets that even the best drivers in the world have lost cars (rohl crashed a 918 not too long ago). I'd rather keep my car than get the chance to thump my chest.
Sorry for the rant. Had to get that off my chest after shots were fired over my bow by someone recently (not here).
