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Old 10-10-2015, 05:25 PM
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I made the same move and sold my 991 GT3 and waiting on the Spyder. Wile the GT3 is an amazing car I was a bit disappointed driving on the street. Unless you are wide open it would drive like any other 911 on the street. Any comments with the gearing. Everyone comments on them being too tall.
Old 10-10-2015, 09:58 PM
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Was at Canepa cars and coffee today.. (Google it, ridiculous car event)... There were two GT4's there and there were as many people crowding around those as the LaFerrari parked next to them. Looks absolutely gorgeous and powerful and so "race car"... With the roof like our Spyders?... I can't even imagine.
Old 10-10-2015, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by w12jfd
Photo is taken Nant Gwynant Valley in North Wales during a 250 mile thrash around epic back roads yesterday.

I swapped my 991 GT3 for the Spyder as whilst the GT3 was a weapon on track it really wasn't much fun on the road. (Photo earlier in thread).

I've owned some great cars but I'd say the Boxster is the most entertaining so far.

The handling is superb - the car feels much lighter than 1300kg and coupled with similar torque figures to the GT3 it just flies, even keeping revs below 6k to bed the engine in gently.

The noise is splendid and the gearbox a joy - quality of fit and finish better than 911.

Roof noise is fine upto circa 100 mph and then would be intrusive on a longer trip at high speed.


Feel free to ask questions on specifics I've not covered. I'm on 600 miles of back roads after two days and can't wait to get back in.

I think you are all going to be grinning from ear to ear when yours arrive. In my view the best sports car in the world (though not the best supercar)
THANK YOU! You really answered a lot of my questions and put many concerns of mine to rest. I have about 45 days to go and you've made my day. Of course this is all subjective, but I appreciate you are taking the time to give this great feedback. Journalist are ok, but come on they aren't paying for the car.
Old 10-11-2015, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by w12jfd
Photo is taken Nant Gwynant Valley in North Wales during a 250 mile thrash around epic back roads yesterday.

I swapped my 991 GT3 for the Spyder as whilst the GT3 was a weapon on track it really wasn't much fun on the road. (Photo earlier in thread).

I've owned some great cars but I'd say the Boxster is the most entertaining so far.

The handling is superb - the car feels much lighter than 1300kg and coupled with similar torque figures to the GT3 it just flies, even keeping revs below 6k to bed the engine in gently.

The noise is splendid and the gearbox a joy - quality of fit and finish better than 911.

Roof noise is fine upto circa 100 mph and then would be intrusive on a longer trip at high speed.


Feel free to ask questions on specifics I've not covered. I'm on 600 miles of back roads after two days and can't wait to get back in.

I think you are all going to be grinning from ear to ear when yours arrive. In my view the best sports car in the world (though not the best supercar)

Great write up; thanks

Could you share your thoughts on the rather "tall" gearing for the MT
Thanks
Old 10-11-2015, 02:31 AM
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Old 10-11-2015, 08:53 AM
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Despite most journalists complaining about the gearing I certainly don't have a problem with it.

How often do you spend your day bouncing off the rev limiter (unless on track)? For road use the ratios work well, particularly given how much torque there is mid range. Shifting at 6k gives plenty of scope for stirring the box - and you'll want to as its a joy to use.
Old 10-11-2015, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by w12jfd
Despite most journalists complaining about the gearing I certainly don't have a problem with it.

How often do you spend your day bouncing off the rev limiter (unless on track)? For road use the ratios work well, particularly given how much torque there is mid range. Shifting at 6k gives plenty of scope for stirring the box - and you'll want to as its a joy to use.
Thanks for that perspective. At what revs does the engine change character; i.e. tone, torque, volume etc.. I read that there is a marked change at 3500rpm, is there any value in going all the way to max rpm like there is on a gt3 for example?
Old 10-11-2015, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by w12jfd
Despite most journalists complaining about the gearing I certainly don't have a problem with it. How often do you spend your day bouncing off the rev limiter (unless on track)? For road use the ratios work well, particularly given how much torque there is mid range. Shifting at 6k gives plenty of scope for stirring the box - and you'll want to as its a joy to use.
Actually the long gear ratios aren't great for the track either. I have been told by more than one person more knowledgeable than I that the factory gear ratios in Boxzilla, my 986S are too long and that I'd cut significant lap time by investing in some different gears.

And I agree with you that I'm not intending to run to redline on the street so the gear ratios should be fine.
Old 10-13-2015, 12:32 AM
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I wish someone would compare the GT4 with the Spyder...
Old 10-13-2015, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by s2ktaxi
I wish someone would compare the GT4 with the Spyder...
i think they would be very very close on the track for a few laps.. all that gt3 suspension works mostly for adjustability, and the aero is negligible... but the bigger brakes would resist fade for longer.
Old 10-13-2015, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
i think they would be very very close on the track for a few laps.. all that gt3 suspension works mostly for adjustability, and the aero is negligible... but the bigger brakes would resist fade for longer.
I expect it wouldn't be that close. The GT4 chassis is much stiffer and the wheels and tires alone would probably be worth a couple seconds on a big track.
Old 10-13-2015, 03:00 AM
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I was curious about balance seeing the difference in rear tire width
Old 10-13-2015, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by s2ktaxi
I was curious about balance seeing the difference in rear tire width
Can you put 10mm wider tires from gt4 on the Spyder?
Old 10-13-2015, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by s2ktaxi
I wish someone would compare the GT4 with the Spyder...
In what ways?
Old 10-14-2015, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Petevb
In what ways?
balance at the limit. steering feel. rear end stability.


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