Originally Posted by rohitgarewal

I just don't see the logic of looking at any car as an investment (unless it's already a collectors car), or to try and guess depreciation values for new vehicles other than historical averages.

Porsches, in my opinion, are the greatest sports car the mass public can buy right now, but their older versions are experiencing a bubble in pricing. Top 1% hobbyists have excess capital due to a bull stock market and amazing amounts of liquidity being pumped in by the Fed - When the current asset bubble bursts, and it will, cool looking cars from the 80's and 90's that were mass produced, have inferior engines and are missing creature comforts compared to today will plummet even faster.

If you're fortunate enough to afford a 100k track car, like many here are, buy it thinking you're going to take a massive hit in value and enjoy every minute of it. If you think you're going to have the next gt3rs4.0, there's a strong probability you will be disappointed - then you're not only sad you made a bad investment but you never got to enjoy an amazing piece of technology because you were too scared to put miles on it - lose / lose.

Of course, I could be wrong and you could make a ton of money on the thing...but most likely I'm right ;-)

I apologize for typos, on my mobile waiting at the airport ☺

Originally Posted by sunnyr

Eduardo, care to guess what will power a 981.2 GT4? Since the current engine donor (991S) will move to a turbo.

Originally Posted by khooni

Doesn't this mean that potential the 981.1 gt4 run could be very short and actually end by August 2016? The gt4 981.2 run could then pick it back up later?

Originally Posted by Z356

Porsche might still produce that N/A 3.8 engine (6 cylinder) for the future .2 981 GT4 in MY2017 & beyond. Just as it's like to produce a version of the current 991 gt3 N/A engine in the .2 991 gt3 coming up (hopefully) as a MY2017! I think that we heard Andreas Preuninger hint at that in the course of his Evo GT4 interview!

Originally Posted by Z356

Initially I thought the GT4 would be built starting as a late MY2015 for April/May deliveries in Europe. But according to Sonnen Porsche, the GT4 will debut in production form (at least for the US) as a MY2016 model:

Originally Posted by Z356

Yes...but most likely the run will end by May/June of 2016 in .1 981 form, not August. There is a very good chance that the .2 face lifted 981 (or 982) will be introduced in Geneva Auto show (March 2016) and start to be built as an early MY2017 in the Spring of 2016. The question then will be: 'Will there be a one year hiatus before we see the new .2 GT4?' Some folks expect that there will also be a one year gap, or pause, between the introduction of the .2 991 as a MY2016 in June 2015 and when the new .2 991 gt3 will appear (e.g. not until summer of 2016 as a MY2017). This mimics what happened to the gt3 & RS between .1 & .2 997 versions. There was no MY2009 of either gt3 or gt3 RS. The last .1 997 gt3 or RS was a MY2008 and the first .2 997 gt3 or RS was a MY2010.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by Brian 96C2

Hi Ed,

So I can wrap my feeble mind around this, are you defining MY 2016 981.1 GT4 as a production run of 600 cars and 981.2 with another 600 cars as a possible MY 2017? Thanks.

Originally Posted by Marine Blue

My impression.......Porsche finally stopped holding back on the Cayman as far as the hardware but they are still holding back on the marketing.

Originally Posted by arena-RTR

This is exactly why I'm so hot on this car. Granted, I agree with others that resale value should NEVER be a consideration when purchasing a brand new automobile, but there are exceptions to every rule: Look at Boxster Spyder owners: That car was $70k in 2011, and look to be worth $40-$50k with miles on them even now in the dead of winter. Show me another new vehicle in that price range that has held 65% of it's value after 4.5 years... That's $460 a month to drive one of the coolest cars on the market fully under warranty.

Originally Posted by blipit

BMW 1M.

They are worth more than what they cost new, almost 4 years later they sell for $55k-$60k. Some low mileage examples selling for over $60k.

Originally Posted by Z356

I don't think we have official confirmation yet that only 600 cars (worldwide or US) will be produced. And in post .2 981 face lift, who knows how many they will build! But regardless, I don't see the GT4 as a limited edition one/two year-only offering. This model is aimed by Porsche Motorsports (who designed it in-house) as an integral part of its greater GT program and as a worthy competitor in amateur 'Club Racing' and perhaps even in professional competitive racing the world over! As such, it should NOT be thought as a one year or two year limited production vehicle! Think of it as something similar to the first 996 gt3 which evolved into the .1 997 gt3, then the .2 gt3 and finally into today's 991 gt3! I see it as a permanent new model...not a niche car like the Boxster Spyder or the Cayman R. It will be developed further, and nurtured into successful maturity, by the same clever folks that gave us the gt3...which is the most exciting model line of series production 911's since the 1973 Carrera RS era! Saludos, Eduardo Carmel .