Yellow Submarine

The magazines write that a GT4 with PDK will be an option sometime next year. I am sure they have it by the right end, because they are quoting Porsche people saying that they want to give customers the choice.



Welcome to the Wonderfull World of Porsche. I haven't got a GT car and I want one before we are all forced into autonomous EV's. It needs to be as analogue as possible. Loud as hell, heavy clutch and a hard ride! Give it to me! Take my money!

hf1

996.2 GT3

Yellow Submarine

Granted, 996 are more analogue than a GT4 but I fancy a new car. Plus I don't like the interiors of that period. Everything counts, even the upholstery.

sonorous

The difference between a Carrera engine and a GT3 engine is essentially "the expensive parts". The Porsche product line is very modular and essentially a Carrera engine is a detuned GT3 engine and a GT3 engine is a tuned Carrera engine. The media and many on this thread seem quite obsessed with the engine being a "detuned GT3". It is really just semantics and marketing spin... I recommend to focus on the actual performance stats like HP and RPM and not get hung up on the pedigree or perceived lack there of...

Wild Weasel

That's really not true. If the GT3 engine was mostly the same but used more exotic materials for pistons and rods and maybe a different intake and tune, then I'd be on board with the statement, but entirely different heads and valve trains goes a bit beyond being the same engine with some different "the expensive parts".

GT04VVV

New vid

008

I’m more interested in track durability than I am in a car manufacturer’s published performance numbers. Those “expensive parts” make a difference. Forged rods and crank, a true dry sump, upgraded oil pumps for the top end etc.

Also, the engine doesn’t cost porsche that much, the retail prices quoted don’t equate to the supply cost. It costs more than a 9A1 for sure but it’s marginal compared to the cost of research and Development, international certification, plant tooling costs etc to put a new engine in the 718 GT4 and Spydet that will only sell a few thousand units world wide before they go electric.

That being said, Porsche may intend to sell many more than last time based on the previous success and was able to make a business case that a new engine, or at least a heavily revised one, is warranted.

Again, I’m not expecting it to happen but for those of us who spend a lot of time on the track it would be nice to have that extra little comfort in engineering.

Yellow Submarine

That GT4 has the red brake calipers while the one from 04/12 by "cvdzijden" had the yellow ones..

Edit: there are 3 different GT4's!
Plate xx 852 has yellow calipers, plates xx 8580 and xx 873 the standard red brakes

GT04VVV

presumably optional PCCB?

jmartpr

Be careful there....981 GT4 turned out to be more reliable in the engine department than the 991.1 GT3...and we just had a lowly de-tuned 991 Carrera S engine.
But I do agree with your statement......for those that track durability and the manufacturer standing behind the product even when used on track is very important.

ajw45

If you want track durability you want the 981
718 GT4cs kept the 3.8, that engine will probably have more race miles on it than anything else in the PMA catalog.

008

Great point! I have a 9A1 in my 99.1S too and have come to love the lump for what it is.

Wild Weasel

I mean... they're blowing out transmissions left right and center but the engines are rock solid!!

blipit

Sounds more NA in this video than the last. The GPF is definitely making it difficult to nail down what motor it is. The filters really do quiet down exhaust notes. Interesting that the Speedster exhaust is 22lbs lighter than the RS because of the GPF. They reduce sound so much, the side mufflers are not needed.

Totor

Same kind of noise as 992 tracking last week-end... unfortunately not very nice...