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Old 08-29-2018, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pcar81


Do you know this for sure?
I really want the GT4, but not if it’s manual only.
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I don't think any of this has been confirmed.
Old 08-29-2018, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VLJ
Yep, I initially wanted the GT4 in part because everyone kept telling me it would be a classic. I then learned of the production numbers and realized there was no way, there are just too many of them. I bought one anyway because it's a fun car and it's a tremendous value but hell lets not kid ourselves these things are not going to rise in value any time soon, if ever.
Eh. BMW made a ton of E30 M3s but we know how that turned out. There's really no telling what car becomes a classic but with Porsche values being what they are, the last of the N/A is a pretty sure bet to at least retain value.
Old 08-29-2018, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
So? There's always going to be faster cars. There's probably plenty of modified Miatas out there that are faster than a GT4. So what?

A turbo PDK 718 modified to be faster than a GT4 will not deliver the same driving experience that a naturally aspirated manual GT4 will give.
So, if you were right, Porsche wouldn't have given detuned engines here and there,
and RS models would've manual option aswell...
but nope seems that PAG cares about hierarchy and stuff, else we would've had gt3 engine under gt4 platform
imo GTS shouldn't outperform GT4 with just a silly amount of hundred euros of tuning
Old 08-29-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkNCookies
So, if you were right, Porsche wouldn't have given detuned engines here and there,
and RS models would've manual option aswell...
but nope seems that PAG cares about hierarchy and stuff, else we would've had gt3 engine under gt4 platform
imo GTS shouldn't outperform GT4 with just a silly amount of hundred euros of tuning
Of course they do. But that all goes out the window when you start talking about modified cars.

And as I said... even though the GTS will be faster... the driving experience will not be the same.
Old 08-29-2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkNCookies
So, if you were right, Porsche wouldn't have given detuned engines here and there,
and RS models would've manual option aswell...
but nope seems that PAG cares about hierarchy and stuff, else we would've had gt3 engine under gt4 platform
imo GTS shouldn't outperform GT4 with just a silly amount of hundred euros of tuning
Look at the 911 GTS versus GT3. There are tracks where the GTS is running pretty much identically to the GT3. If you just cared about track speed you'd be buying a Corvette.
Old 08-29-2018, 05:59 PM
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Take a 2018 911 GTS add a Cobb tune and you are in the 500 RWHP range. That's impressive.
Old 08-30-2018, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan C.
Take a 2018 911 GTS add a Cobb tune and you are in the 500 RWHP range. That's impressive.
yea and imagine if the GT3 would be manual only
Old 08-30-2018, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blackholescion
Eh. BMW made a ton of E30 M3s but we know how that turned out. There's really no telling what car becomes a classic but with Porsche values being what they are, the last of the N/A is a pretty sure bet to at least retain value.
Or the first one ever

Originally Posted by MilkNCookies
So, if you were right, Porsche wouldn't have given detuned engines here and there,
and RS models would've manual option aswell...
but nope seems that PAG cares about hierarchy and stuff, else we would've had gt3 engine under gt4 platform
imo GTS shouldn't outperform GT4 with just a silly amount of hundred euros of tuning
GTS is also over $140k delivered vs GT4’s price of a $100k... that could buy a lot of mods too
Old 08-30-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Five12Free
GTS is also over $140k delivered vs GT4’s price of a $100k... that could buy a lot of mods too
Pretty sure he was referring to the 718 GTS.
Old 08-30-2018, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
Pretty sure he was referring to the 718 GTS.
exactly, stock 911GTS.2 already walks gt4s
Old 08-30-2018, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MilkNCookies
exactly, stock 911GTS.2 already walks gt4s
So did my 991.1 GTS, at least in PDK. It felt like a noticeable step down in acceleration making that move, although not as big as Turbo-to-GTS had a couple years earlier!
Old 08-30-2018, 11:14 AM
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I went from Turbo S to GT4. straight line acceleration only makes guys with small members feel happy. GT4 is infinitely more fun, would never go back (assuming I can only have one or the other).
Old 08-30-2018, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by VLJ
I went from Turbo S to GT4. straight line acceleration only makes guys with small members feel happy. GT4 is infinitely more fun, would never go back (assuming I can only have one or the other).
Couldn't agree more, though I think the 981GT4 with the X51 3.8 out of my 991 GTS would be the perfect low-cost Porsche GT car. Sure, I can have one built now but the cost is more than I want to put in a GT4, and I just don't want the hassle of shipping, waiting, getting it back only to find out there's something that needs tuned/adjusted/etc. I've gone the tuned car route before and while it's definitely for some people, it's no longer for me.

Anyway, I totally get why Porsche didn't give us the 430hp X51 NA motor in 2016; just saying that would be a very nice combo, even if it had raised the MSRP by the $14,000-ish it cost as an option on 991s.

Now, all that aside, It's the funnest Porsche I've owned in a long time.
Old 08-30-2018, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by VLJ
I went from Turbo S to GT4. straight line acceleration only makes guys with small members feel happy. GT4 is infinitely more fun, would never go back (assuming I can only have one or the other).
And of course, the Turbo S sounds absolutely horrible.... compared to the GT4.

Old 08-30-2018, 01:48 PM
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For the Turbo S to sound horrible it would first have to make a sound....


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