718 GT4?
#2476
Your arguments are rather specious...how do you get to a $350K Cayman? Then you say that the two cars have a price that is either the same or $5K difference? A GT3 , or even a GT3 RS doesn't cost $350K. You can have it one way or the other, but not both. Then consider this...by the time a GT4 RS would hit the market there would be no GT3 models for sale - they'll be out of production. So, actually, there would be no "competition" between the two model ranges. The GT3 boys will already be salivating over the new 992 GT3, which, I think, won't be a very slow car. How is a rear multilink 'a must'? You work at Weissach? Have you driven a 500HP cayman? Okay, so how hard would that GT4 multilink be to come up with? The RSR has got a cayman bulkhead. It's also got a multilink suspension bolted to that bulkhead - not really that much of the stretch that you claim...
You, and a couple of other people on this forum are adamant that a GT4 RS is not coming, and your arguments are more emotional than factual.
You, and a couple of other people on this forum are adamant that a GT4 RS is not coming, and your arguments are more emotional than factual.
#2477
#2478
At the same time by not having a high end mid engine platform they are missing out on my business and many others who simply do not want the inferior driving dynamics of a rear engine car. Even if the GT3 had an 18,000 RPM engine and I dont care that much about the price, I just dont want a car that suffers from lift off oversteer at the limit. I want it to do what I tell it to do, not the other way around.
The current GT cars and indeed the Carreras (S and above) have rear axle steering as standard (or option in the case of the carreras) and this delivers a very balanced handling experience e.g.during high speed cornering the wheelbase from a dynamics POV is extended by 20 inches. Thus delivering a mid-engined like feel - the bigger problem with these cars is the lack of wheel and tire choice due to the rear axle steering rams (e.g. need to be 20 inch with a specific offset and barrel design to allow the rams to move unhindered - I believe in the US there a some boutique 19 inch solutions).
I track my GTS spec car regularly and the only thing that holds it back is tires e.g. corner speed is limited by grip
Last edited by groundhog; 06-13-2018 at 11:41 PM.
#2482
Wow. Look at everything Whoopsy caused.
I kid of course.
On a serious note, when has porsche really gone and put completely different engines in their GT and RS models ??
If the GT4 is getting a non GT engine stroked to 4L and the GT4 RS gets the GT3 engine, I am fairly certain a lot of GT4 buyers will be extremely unhappy.
I really don't care for the "Buy the GT4 RS" argument because the GT4 RS will not come with a manual transmission.
I kid of course.
On a serious note, when has porsche really gone and put completely different engines in their GT and RS models ??
If the GT4 is getting a non GT engine stroked to 4L and the GT4 RS gets the GT3 engine, I am fairly certain a lot of GT4 buyers will be extremely unhappy.
I really don't care for the "Buy the GT4 RS" argument because the GT4 RS will not come with a manual transmission.
#2483
At the same time by not having a high end mid engine platform they are missing out on my business and many others who simply do not want the inferior driving dynamics of a rear engine car. Even if the GT3 had an 18,000 RPM engine and I dont care that much about the price, I just dont want a car that suffers from lift off oversteer at the limit. I want it to do what I tell it to do, not the other way around.
At this point, I am reading this thread for the pictures... Let me know when PAG says something.
#2485
Agreed, I wouldn't put the chances of it ever seeing the light of day at greater than 1 in 5. And only because the glorious NA engines are relatively close to being history, so they might possibly do it as a last hurrah kind of thing.
#2486
I don’t think that’s a fair comparison though.
Like it or not, the Ring is the only one that matters. Firstly for the reasons you mentioned. It’s just so massive and diverse that it tests all facets of a car’s capabilities.
Just as important though is the fact that the world has sort of decided it is and therefore it’s the only place that everyone goes to make their name.
I think GM just recently set a record at VIR with the new Corvette. So what? Porsche isn’t gonna send their A team there to beat it with the GT2RS. Why would they? Nobody cares.
Like it or not, the Ring is the only one that matters. Firstly for the reasons you mentioned. It’s just so massive and diverse that it tests all facets of a car’s capabilities.
Just as important though is the fact that the world has sort of decided it is and therefore it’s the only place that everyone goes to make their name.
I think GM just recently set a record at VIR with the new Corvette. So what? Porsche isn’t gonna send their A team there to beat it with the GT2RS. Why would they? Nobody cares.
Prob just the one before it breaks.
#2487
I'm agnostic as to the existence of a GT4RS, but your reasoning is weak. Before 2016 had Porsche ever offered a Cayman GT car? And then they did.
#2488
I mean... can you imagine if everyone felt the need to go and beat everyone else's track records at every random track around the world??
#2489
Things happen.
#2490
You sure?
Nothing is impossible, but I think highly unlikely. Porsche has offered a "GT" version of many model lines. My logic is that the RennSport designation will remain singular.