OFFICIAL Cayenne Hybrid Delay Thread
02-26-2019, 03:49 PM
#16
i've been told since x-mas by the local SA, SM - no ehybrids are coming off the production line at all presumably since the factory stop early autumn across most german marques.
earliest 'expected' delivery sept if indeed production recommences, anywhere, so i'm indeed v surprised that NA market are getting these May etc. The factory summer closure of course does not help.
The drivetrain and WLTP battery issue are not sorted yet, & I would have thought this applies to any that comes off the production line going forwards.
earliest 'expected' delivery sept if indeed production recommences, anywhere, so i'm indeed v surprised that NA market are getting these May etc. The factory summer closure of course does not help.
The drivetrain and WLTP battery issue are not sorted yet, & I would have thought this applies to any that comes off the production line going forwards.
02-26-2019, 04:04 PM
#17
Burning Brakes
It's curious about the drivetrain rumors, because I thought that Panamera and Cayenne E-Hybrids were pretty much the same in terms of drivetrain, and 2019 E-Hybrid Panameras seem to be back on track in terms of production -- though I could be wrong on that. European Rennlist members would know more, probably, since about 60% of Panameras now sold in Europe are E-Hybrids...
02-27-2019, 10:41 PM
#20
Rennlist Member
For those of us in the US, I stopped at my dealer today. I had ordered my Cayenne E-Hybrid back in 10/2/18. My dealer printed out the current tracking status of my vehicle. Build was complete on 2/22/19 (V318). It is currently waiting to be put on a boat that is due to sail 3/29/19, and arriving in Northern California around 4/26/19. Unfortunately, release to dealer is currently estimated to be 9/13/19. It appears Porsche is assuming a worst case scenario to make it through CARB (California Air Resources Board). Not happy about an 11 month wait.
Last edited by MarkToff; 02-28-2019 at 01:16 AM.
02-27-2019, 10:51 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
If it makes you feel any better, from the time we placed our deposit on January 25, 2018 until we took delivery in late December was... you guessed it, almost exactly 11 months. So you are not alone.
02-28-2019, 02:30 AM
#22
Burning Brakes
For those of us in the US, I stopped at my dealer today. I had ordered my Cayenne E-Hybrid back in 10/2/18. My dealer printed out the current tracking status of my vehicle. Build was complete on 2/22/19 (V318). It is currently waiting to be put on a boat that is due to sail 3/29/19, and arriving in Northern California around 4/26/19. Unfortunately, release to dealer is currently estimated to be 9/13/19. It appears Porsche is assuming a worst case scenario to make it through CARB (California Air Resources Board). Not happy about an 11 month wait.
02-28-2019, 05:49 PM
#23
Burning Brakes
Only the ICE-only 2019 Cayennes and 2019 Panameras have been approved by CARB so far (i.e., no 2019 Macans, and no 2019 E-Hybrids), among the 4-door Porsches for 2019, with no new postings since January:
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2019/2019.php
Also, it appears that no 2019 Macans and no 2019 E-Hybrids have been certified by EPA yet, either, while almost all other 2019 Porsche models have been:
https://www.epa.gov/compliance-and-f...-and-equipment
[see pdf file titled "Certified Vehicle Models (Model Years: 2014 – Present) (XLSX)(693 K, February 2019)"]
[url=https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2019-02/light-duty-vehicle-models-2014-present.xlsx]
CARB certification cannot happen until EPA certification happens first. So this doesn't look great for deliveries of base 2019 Macans in two months (as some dealerships have been indicating), given the snail's pace that EPA and CARB certifications can take. The federal-government shutdown surely didn't help this.
https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2019/2019.php
Also, it appears that no 2019 Macans and no 2019 E-Hybrids have been certified by EPA yet, either, while almost all other 2019 Porsche models have been:
https://www.epa.gov/compliance-and-f...-and-equipment
[see pdf file titled "Certified Vehicle Models (Model Years: 2014 – Present) (XLSX)(693 K, February 2019)"]
[url=https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2019-02/light-duty-vehicle-models-2014-present.xlsx]
CARB certification cannot happen until EPA certification happens first. So this doesn't look great for deliveries of base 2019 Macans in two months (as some dealerships have been indicating), given the snail's pace that EPA and CARB certifications can take. The federal-government shutdown surely didn't help this.
Last edited by cometguy; 03-01-2019 at 08:12 PM.
03-01-2019, 07:45 PM
#25
Instructor
My SA just sent me screen shots of my e-hybrid order ... I've copied some of the milestones below.
order placed with dealership, 2/4/19
allocation month 06 2019
V270 vehicle exit production 06/07/2019
V331 Entry Port Emden 06/21/19
U006 Entry Port San Diego 08/09/2019
U007 Exit Port San Diego 08/23/9019
V900 Dealer Inventory 09/13/2019 ( which is in So Cal)
order placed with dealership, 2/4/19
allocation month 06 2019
V270 vehicle exit production 06/07/2019
V331 Entry Port Emden 06/21/19
U006 Entry Port San Diego 08/09/2019
U007 Exit Port San Diego 08/23/9019
V900 Dealer Inventory 09/13/2019 ( which is in So Cal)
03-03-2019, 12:25 AM
#27
Burning Brakes
I thought that Canada follows EPA (and CARB?) certification because it doesn't have the infrastructure to test cars the way the US does...
03-03-2019, 01:13 PM
#28
03-10-2019, 05:03 PM
#30
Burning Brakes
I've read on other forums recently that Canada Porsches are subject first to approval by USA EPA. If this is true, you probably aren't seeing a 2019 Cayenne E-Hybrid by June unless there is a miracle. Even the new 2019 Macans have yet to be approved by EPA, with lots of them sitting in US ports right now, I am told by dealers here. The US federal shutdown earlier this year really messed things up everywhere, and there's a big backlog.