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Old 02-26-2019 | 03:49 PM
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i've been told since x-mas by the local SA, SM - no ehybrids are coming off the production line at all presumably since the factory stop early autumn across most german marques.
earliest 'expected' delivery sept if indeed production recommences, anywhere, so i'm indeed v surprised that NA market are getting these May etc. The factory summer closure of course does not help.
The drivetrain and WLTP battery issue are not sorted yet, & I would have thought this applies to any that comes off the production line going forwards.
Old 02-26-2019 | 04:04 PM
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It's curious about the drivetrain rumors, because I thought that Panamera and Cayenne E-Hybrids were pretty much the same in terms of drivetrain, and 2019 E-Hybrid Panameras seem to be back on track in terms of production -- though I could be wrong on that. European Rennlist members would know more, probably, since about 60% of Panameras now sold in Europe are E-Hybrids...
Old 02-27-2019 | 11:34 AM
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They are definitely building e-hybrids.
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Old 02-27-2019 | 06:15 PM
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They are definitely building e-hybrids.
This makes sense and sort of confirms that the issue is for European cars and is down to NEDC
Old 02-27-2019 | 10:41 PM
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For those of us in the US, I stopped at my dealer today. I had ordered my Cayenne E-Hybrid back in 10/2/18. My dealer printed out the current tracking status of my vehicle. Build was complete on 2/22/19 (V318). It is currently waiting to be put on a boat that is due to sail 3/29/19, and arriving in Northern California around 4/26/19. Unfortunately, release to dealer is currently estimated to be 9/13/19. It appears Porsche is assuming a worst case scenario to make it through CARB (California Air Resources Board). Not happy about an 11 month wait.

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Old 02-27-2019 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkToff
It appears Porsche is assuming a worst case scenario to make it through CARB (California Air Resources Board). Not happy about an 11 month wait.
Yikes. I hope that does not turn out to be the case. Our Turbo was built in October, and sat at the Houston port for almost two months while Porsche and the EPA danced around each other. That was annoying. Five months at port would be aggravating beyond words.

If it makes you feel any better, from the time we placed our deposit on January 25, 2018 until we took delivery in late December was... you guessed it, almost exactly 11 months. So you are not alone.
Old 02-28-2019 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkToff
For those of us in the US, I stopped at my dealer today. I had ordered my Cayenne E-Hybrid back in 10/2/18. My dealer printed out the current tracking status of my vehicle. Build was complete on 2/22/19 (V318). It is currently waiting to be put on a boat that is due to sail 3/29/19, and arriving in Northern California around 4/26/19. Unfortunately, release to dealer is currently estimated to be 9/13/19. It appears Porsche is assuming a worst case scenario to make it through CARB (California Air Resources Board). Not happy about an 11 month wait.
Sounds like the 2018 Panamera E-Hybrid scenario all over again, in which cars sat in California ports for a half year or more. This is the first year of the upgraded-range Cayenne E-Hybrid, paralleling the Panamera last year. Please keep us posted on what happens with your Cayenne, in terms of when it arrives in California and how long it takes to be cleared for delivery.
Old 02-28-2019 | 05:49 PM
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Only the ICE-only 2019 Cayennes and 2019 Panameras have been approved by CARB so far (i.e., no 2019 Macans, and no 2019 E-Hybrids), among the 4-door Porsches for 2019, with no new postings since January:

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad.../2019/2019.php

Also, it appears that no 2019 Macans and no 2019 E-Hybrids have been certified by EPA yet, either, while almost all other 2019 Porsche models have been:

https://www.epa.gov/compliance-and-f...-and-equipment
[see pdf file titled "Certified Vehicle Models (Model Years: 2014 – Present) (XLSX)(693 K, February 2019)"]
[url=https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2019-02/light-duty-vehicle-models-2014-present.xlsx]

CARB certification cannot happen until EPA certification happens first. So this doesn't look great for deliveries of base 2019 Macans in two months (as some dealerships have been indicating), given the snail's pace that EPA and CARB certifications can take. The federal-government shutdown surely didn't help this.

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Old 02-28-2019 | 05:51 PM
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I just confirmed that here in Tennessee, we won’t get a Cayenne Hybrid until September
Old 03-01-2019 | 07:45 PM
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My SA just sent me screen shots of my e-hybrid order ... I've copied some of the milestones below.

order placed with dealership, 2/4/19

allocation month 06 2019

V270 vehicle exit production 06/07/2019

V331 Entry Port Emden 06/21/19

U006 Entry Port San Diego 08/09/2019

U007 Exit Port San Diego 08/23/9019

V900 Dealer Inventory 09/13/2019 ( which is in So Cal)
Old 03-02-2019 | 08:24 PM
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Hmm, my dealer today said they have allocation for builds in April and May for delivery in July, so it may be just an American problem? I'm in Canada by the way.
Old 03-03-2019 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Venom21
Hmm, my dealer today said they have allocation for builds in April and May for delivery in July, so it may be just an American problem? I'm in Canada by the way.
I thought that Canada follows EPA (and CARB?) certification because it doesn't have the infrastructure to test cars the way the US does...
Old 03-03-2019 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cometguy
I thought that Canada follows EPA (and CARB?) certification because it doesn't have the infrastructure to test cars the way the US does...
I don't know, that's the date that was given to me. Maybe my dealer's information is out of date?
Old 03-09-2019 | 08:58 AM
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So I placed an order yesterday for an April build slot, the build is getting locked in on Monday and my SA said it will arrive in late June. Hopefully no delays.
Old 03-10-2019 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom21
So I placed an order yesterday for an April build slot, the build is getting locked in on Monday and my SA said it will arrive in late June. Hopefully no delays.
I've read on other forums recently that Canada Porsches are subject first to approval by USA EPA. If this is true, you probably aren't seeing a 2019 Cayenne E-Hybrid by June unless there is a miracle. Even the new 2019 Macans have yet to be approved by EPA, with lots of them sitting in US ports right now, I am told by dealers here. The US federal shutdown earlier this year really messed things up everywhere, and there's a big backlog.


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