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Old 06-01-2017 | 11:01 AM
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So I got my offer letter to sign this am for my '14 TDI.

Here's my question - what if the fix isn't approved?
I still haven't heard that one was submitted let alone went through the hoops to get approved.

Anyone have an answer to this?
Old 06-01-2017 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan A
So I got my offer letter to sign this am for my '14 TDI.

Here's my question - what if the fix isn't approved?
I still haven't heard that one was submitted let alone went through the hoops to get approved.

Anyone have an answer to this?
You will have to call CARB or EPA since the deadlines have passed
Old 06-01-2017 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stronbl
Might be time to just call them and see if they can straighten it out. Or alternatively, you can call or email the plaintiffs lawyers - PSC - and tell them you are getting nowhere with the process. They had informed the court they would also be able to work with class members to straighten out any issues. Good luck.

PS - I have emailed the PSC folks a few times and they have always responded within a couple days, most of the time with helpful info.
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Ok re-uploaded everything this time. Let's see what happens. Odo Disclosure, Registration, and Drivers License.
Ok paperwork all accepted. Phew!
Old 06-01-2017 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan A
So I got my offer letter to sign this am for my '14 TDI.

Here's my question - what if the fix isn't approved?
I still haven't heard that one was submitted let alone went through the hoops to get approved.

Anyone have an answer to this?
It's all in the settlement. You'll have to read that, but I think it's all the same. Basically, if they don't get an approved fix by the date specified in the agreement, you get more money. Or a buyback. Anything they've already paid is deducted, of course.

If the approved fix neuters your vehicle (-3 MPG or -5% Peak HP or -5% Peak Torque), they offer an additional $500. But you (as in the class) can "seek additional remedies" and, of course, VW can oppose that. It'd be back to court in that case, but I think all sides know that we - the class - would probably want a buyback in that case. Hopefully, this pittance means they're confident the fix they are working on/testing won't impact those measurements. Of course, if it means you have to fill the DEF every thousand miles, that would be a problem, too, because you'd be tied to a DEF jug. Even if VW agrees to provide free refills.

Or, you could pay back any money you received and opt out to sue yourself if the fix doesn't seem good to you.
Old 06-01-2017 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by skiahh
If the approved fix neuters your vehicle (-3 MPG or -5% Peak HP or -5% Peak Torque), they offer an additional $500.
Yeah this is the only thing that scares me.... if they measure success at PEAK values... they could still totally neuter the vehicle since what makes these things so enjoyable happen in the fat of the curve - not at the high point.

They could carve out 100ftlbs of torque in the midrange so long as its the same # at peak.
Old 06-03-2017 | 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by OmniGLH
Yeah this is the only thing that scares me.... if they measure success at PEAK values... they could still totally neuter the vehicle since what makes these things so enjoyable happen in the fat of the curve - not at the high point.

They could carve out 100ftlbs of torque in the midrange so long as its the same # at peak.
My only motivation to do the modification would be for the extended warranty. You can rest assure compliance will come at the cost of making it far less enjoyable to drive.
Old 06-06-2017 | 08:06 AM
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Might get worse for VW/Porsche.

http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diese...re-report-says
Old 06-07-2017 | 06:31 PM
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Has anyone received the settlement package yet? Curious how long it took.

From the claims status page

Registration

Profile Complete
05/18/2017

2
Documentation

Waiting for Documents
05/18/2017

Document Package Received
05/30/2017

Document Package Incomplete
05/30/2017

Document Package Complete
06/01/2017

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Qualification and Offer Processing
Settlement Package Available
Settlement Package Received
Settlement Package Complete

4
Completion
Emissions Modification Complete
Old 06-08-2017 | 01:17 AM
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Glad you guys are getting your settlements now...wonderful to hear. Sorry its not what most of you expected or some desired. Looks like the other shoe has dropped with VW in Germany now possibly. Very unexpected...tons more diesels there in Europe than here to consider and deal with. God help VW-AG.

http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diese...n=awdailydrive
Old 06-08-2017 | 01:40 AM
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Interesting... thought that was for gasoline powered cars.
Old 06-08-2017 | 02:59 PM
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I just got an email about a half hour ago from the claims portal that my settlement package is ready to download.

Please download your offer letter. To accept your offer, you must sign the offer letter and sign a release in the presence of a Notary Public and send both documents back to Volkswagen Group of America, Inc. Please check the box confirming your offer selection, have all claimants (including any co-claimant) sign and date the letter, and complete the enclosed release form in the presence of the Notary Public. Upon receipt of your returned materials, they will be reviewed for completeness.


Once complete, please indicate how you would like to return the offer letter to us: upload on the site, mail, or by fax. Upon receipt of your returned materials, they will be reviewed for completeness.
Old 06-08-2017 | 03:01 PM
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Same here.
Old 06-08-2017 | 03:04 PM
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No joy on my settlement package yet. When I inquired today they said it takes 20 days to process/create the package. ( from 5/30/17 submission )
Old 06-08-2017 | 04:18 PM
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I found it interesting that the settlement package was dated May 30. VW basically waited a week to send the email. I guess they are simulating snail mail speed?

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Old 06-08-2017 | 05:09 PM
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Yes, just got our emailed settlement package as well.

So a few questions for the forum:

1) You have to set an appointment? Is that on the phone or do you have to take your Cayenne in for inspection?

2) Where is the Bosch settlement update? I understand that all of the paperwork that we are submitting for the Porsche settlement is also forwarded to Bosch and we do not need to do anything else. There are no updates on Bosch site since I registered last month?


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