Diesel Cayenne and VW emission issue
#3286
The chances of me hiring a lawyer, taking on VW individually, and coming away with a better result (meaning after the lawyer has taken their cut) is pretty damn slim by my reckoning.
#3287
Worst case, if the fix totally ruins the vehicle, I'll trade it in for something else. But really, there isn't much out there I'd want... even if they pull back performance and fuel mileage, so long as it's ahead of the base V6 on torque and fuel economy, the diesel is going to be my engine of choice. The base V6 just doesn't do it for me, power/torque wise, and either the 4.8 or TTV6 in a 958 "S" kinda suck on fuel economy.
#3288
Rennlist Member
I'm opting in to take the first half of the payout. Unless there is really compelling evidence about the fix results I'll skip the fix and second half of the payout though.
The chances of me hiring a lawyer, taking on VW individually, and coming away with a better result (meaning after the lawyer has taken their cut) is pretty damn slim by my reckoning.
The chances of me hiring a lawyer, taking on VW individually, and coming away with a better result (meaning after the lawyer has taken their cut) is pretty damn slim by my reckoning.
#3289
Rennlist Member
I know that we have all been reading endless pages of the various tentative agreements.
Has anyone come across the section that refers to point that the dealers will have to add some form of a permanent sticker or badge under the hood to signify that the compliance repair (assuming it is approved) has occurred?
This point was in an earlier draft and I have not come across this or seen this mentioned in the latest set of documents?
Has anyone come across the section that refers to point that the dealers will have to add some form of a permanent sticker or badge under the hood to signify that the compliance repair (assuming it is approved) has occurred?
This point was in an earlier draft and I have not come across this or seen this mentioned in the latest set of documents?
#3290
Rennlist Member
I'm planning to take the fix and the check.
Worst case, if the fix totally ruins the vehicle, I'll trade it in for something else. But really, there isn't much out there I'd want... even if they pull back performance and fuel mileage, so long as it's ahead of the base V6 on torque and fuel economy, the diesel is going to be my engine of choice. The base V6 just doesn't do it for me, power/torque wise, and either the 4.8 or TTV6 in a 958 "S" kinda suck on fuel economy.
Worst case, if the fix totally ruins the vehicle, I'll trade it in for something else. But really, there isn't much out there I'd want... even if they pull back performance and fuel mileage, so long as it's ahead of the base V6 on torque and fuel economy, the diesel is going to be my engine of choice. The base V6 just doesn't do it for me, power/torque wise, and either the 4.8 or TTV6 in a 958 "S" kinda suck on fuel economy.
#3291
Rennlist Member
I know that we have all been reading endless pages of the various tentative agreements.
Has anyone come across the section that refers to point that the dealers will have to add some form of a permanent sticker or badge under the hood to signify that the compliance repair (assuming it is approved) has occurred?
This point was in an earlier draft and I have not come across this or seen this mentioned in the latest set of documents?
Has anyone come across the section that refers to point that the dealers will have to add some form of a permanent sticker or badge under the hood to signify that the compliance repair (assuming it is approved) has occurred?
This point was in an earlier draft and I have not come across this or seen this mentioned in the latest set of documents?
Every emissions compliant repair will get a new emissions sticker and it appears it will also have an updated EPA fuel mileage notation (not necessarily on the new sticker though). This is supposed to be placed in the engine compartment or the underside of the hood - I can't remember which right now.
Additionally if vehicles are in the buy back category (so at least 3.0L Gen 1 at this point) and if an approved emissions repair is performed (this is different from a emission compliant repair) such that the vehicle can be legally re-sold, it too will get a new emissions sticker as noted above and I believe it will have another sticker stating it does not comform to original emissions standards but does conform to an approved modified emissions standard. Dealers who sell these vehicles also will have to issue a modified title stating such.
Lastly vehicles that are not buy back (that is the owner chooses not to sell it back) but have an approved emissions repair (not an emission compliant repair) get a new emissions sticker noting not in compliance with original emissions but with an approved modified emissions repair. I cannot recall if they also have to have a revised title issued - I think not, but not 100% on that point. I'd have to find and read it again.
EDIT - just saw skiahh posted the reference - I better go back and read it to test my memory. I'll edit the above to correct it as needed.
Last edited by stronbl; 03-09-2017 at 03:17 PM.
#3292
Rennlist Member
Probably no opt-out for me. I'll go the full route assuming an emission compliant repair. If not timely or not emission compliant, then I'll have to do the buyback calculation - but it won't be enough to replace the CD with an S which is how I'd proceed so then I'm out of pocket additional money. Also for now I'm pretty optimistic (naively??) that any approved emission repair will not be a significant performance hit based on the 2.0L data. Lastly I really like the emission-backed extended warranty, very well done.
#3293
Burning Brakes
I will not be opting out.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
#3294
Rennlist Member
WORD
I will not be opting out.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
#3295
Rennlist Member
We'll probably stay in the class, as long as the fix doesn't neuter the vehicle. We'll take the half/Bosch payment and see how it plays out. If the fix looks good, we'll get it done. If not, we'll evaluate the options at that point.
#3297
Burning Brakes
Once 05/11/2017 comes and the judge finally inks the settlement, dates will be finalized and the money will start rolling for the 3.0L-class.
#3298
RL Community Team
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Originally Posted by BenCD
I will not be opting out.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
To think that after a 20 Billion Dollar deal is finalized, that a few 3.0L owners are going to get more is a lawyers-only dream.
I'm taking whatever VAG and Bosch is going to give me and driving along with all the other happy sheeple out there.
My wife is going to do the same with her 2015 Touareg TDI. She could not care less about what is going on with Dieselgate. She will take her $10,000 or whatever she will get pre-fix and if the fix is good, we'll take the other 1/2 of the payoff.
#3299
Most so far seem to lean towards opt'ing in (with some caveats).
Curious though...how many feel that they are coming out ahead?
Personally, I don't.
VW pleads guilty and:
Sales of the German carmaker's luxury brands lifted underlying operating profit before special items 14 percent to 14.6 billion euros ($15.5 billion) in 2016, after the company reported its biggest ever loss in 2015.
(ref reuters:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKBN16325H)
Curious though...how many feel that they are coming out ahead?
Personally, I don't.
VW pleads guilty and:
Sales of the German carmaker's luxury brands lifted underlying operating profit before special items 14 percent to 14.6 billion euros ($15.5 billion) in 2016, after the company reported its biggest ever loss in 2015.
(ref reuters:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKBN16325H)
#3300
Burning Brakes
Most so far seem to lean towards opt'ing in (with some caveats).
Curious though...how many feel that they are coming out ahead?
Personally, I don't.
VW pleads guilty and:
Sales of the German carmaker's luxury brands lifted underlying operating profit before special items 14 percent to 14.6 billion euros ($15.5 billion) in 2016, after the company reported its biggest ever loss in 2015.
(ref reuters:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKBN16325H)
Curious though...how many feel that they are coming out ahead?
Personally, I don't.
VW pleads guilty and:
Sales of the German carmaker's luxury brands lifted underlying operating profit before special items 14 percent to 14.6 billion euros ($15.5 billion) in 2016, after the company reported its biggest ever loss in 2015.
(ref reuters:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-vo...-idUSKBN16325H)
She has a 2015 Touareg TDI Exec. I have a 2012 Touareg TDI Exec.
My 2012 is going to be bought back for more than I had paid for it-this makes me happier than happy, like the biggest gift I'll have ever received. It is why I bought the 2016 CD, because the CD is an awesome vehicle and I love the 3.0L TDI motor.
We each started out with the $1,000 goodwill package from VW=happy.
She will get more $$$ from VW even before a fix/modification along with the $1,500 from Bosch.
I will get more $$$ for being the owner of the 2016 CD and if the previous lessee does not register, I'll get $2,000 more plus the $1,500 from Bosch.
We are ahead by a mile as we love our trucks and are getting $$$ and warranty extensions.