scca stock class becoming street class!
10-21-2013, 06:49 PM
#196
In addition, as Tom pointed out, there have been many occasions in the past when Porsches have been *very* competitive or even outright overdogs yet relatively few came out. The 996 GT3 in Super Stock and the Cayman S in the first years of A Stock come to mind.
Fun facts: When Gary Thomason won SS at Nationals in 2008, there were only five people driving Porsches in the 57 driver class. When Ian Stewart won SS at Nationals in 2007, there were only nine people driving Porsches in the 67 (!) driver class. If we go back to when Andy McKee won AS at Nationals in 2001, eleven people out of 40 were driving Porsches, which is better, but still not enough to support a class.
Fun facts: When Gary Thomason won SS at Nationals in 2008, there were only five people driving Porsches in the 57 driver class. When Ian Stewart won SS at Nationals in 2007, there were only nine people driving Porsches in the 67 (!) driver class. If we go back to when Andy McKee won AS at Nationals in 2001, eleven people out of 40 were driving Porsches, which is better, but still not enough to support a class.
10-21-2013, 07:48 PM
#197
Burning Brakes
You have a perception they won't be competitive and expect people to agree with you and apparently that isn't the case for a few of us...
No one said fully carry, how about show up in numbers greater than 3 in a class of 40?
No one said fully carry, how about show up in numbers greater than 3 in a class of 40?
10-21-2013, 08:28 PM
#201
Not true -- Road Tire has existed for the past two years. This year Caymans were first and second in the thirteen car RT2 class at the DC Pro, fourth in RT2 at the Pro Finale (setting second fastest time on the left side, just behind some guy with a cheater index 
), and trophied in RTR at Nationals.
As an aside, guess how many Porsches there were in the aforementioned fifty-five car RTR class at Nationals this year? Four.
A class needs to make numbers. The Caymans aren't going to prop up A Street. The S2000 CRs probably aren't going to either. That leaves the Corvettes, which was Tom's point -- while it irritates me personally that I think Corvettes have been made overdogs in A Street, I agree that's the class' best chance to have healthy fields.
), and trophied in RTR at Nationals.As an aside, guess how many Porsches there were in the aforementioned fifty-five car RTR class at Nationals this year? Four.
A class needs to make numbers. The Caymans aren't going to prop up A Street. The S2000 CRs probably aren't going to either. That leaves the Corvettes, which was Tom's point -- while it irritates me personally that I think Corvettes have been made overdogs in A Street, I agree that's the class' best chance to have healthy fields.
10-21-2013, 08:47 PM
#202
ack! wrong thread.. I meant to bitch in the 'why can't I run my Boxster in ST' thread. 
Street is fine, aside from the +/-1" wheel diameter genie leaving her bottle...
Why'd the 2.5 non-S get merged back in w/ the S? I'd think it make a fun foil for the FRS/BRZ twins.
Street is fine, aside from the +/-1" wheel diameter genie leaving her bottle...
Why'd the 2.5 non-S get merged back in w/ the S? I'd think it make a fun foil for the FRS/BRZ twins.
10-21-2013, 10:01 PM
#203
Drifting
Didn't a couple of you run konis back in the day? Anyone still have a set hanging around?Not true -- Road Tire has existed for the past two years. This year Caymans were first and second in the thirteen car RT2 class at the DC Pro, fourth in RT2 at the Pro Finale (setting second fastest time on the left side, just behind some guy with a cheater index ), and trophied in RTR at Nationals.
As an aside, guess how many Porsches there were in the aforementioned fifty-five car RTR class at Nationals this year? Four.
), and trophied in RTR at Nationals.As an aside, guess how many Porsches there were in the aforementioned fifty-five car RTR class at Nationals this year? Four.
10-21-2013, 10:52 PM
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Your concern is understandable, which is why you should buy a used set of struts and modify those, leaving your originals intact (or vice-versa, depending upon the mileage/condition of the used parts you buy) for a rainy day or when you sell the car.
10-22-2013, 12:12 AM
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I'm not as convinced as Tom that fancy shocks are required. Way back in the day Rob Falkner tested fancy shocks then went back to the stock M030 units because he was faster on them.
If you really want more low speed rebound, you could have Bilstein revalve a set of their shocks for not too much money.
I should note that I'm skeptical that the Boxster will have anything for the base C5, thus the question mark in my list above.
If you really want more low speed rebound, you could have Bilstein revalve a set of their shocks for not too much money.
I should note that I'm skeptical that the Boxster will have anything for the base C5, thus the question mark in my list above.
10-22-2013, 01:02 AM
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Thats why I never said double adjustables. The Bilsteins are quite close (or M030). I would run more all around though. The problem is availability of parts and why I moved away from Porsches recently.
10-24-2013, 05:09 PM
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That's unfortunately not new information. The legality of the XRR wheels is not in question -- the dimensions of the wheels are. Take a look at the letter I wrote for more information: https://rennlist.com/forums/10760244-post148.html.
http://press.porsche.com/archive/pro..._S_revised.pdf
Note that this document is a revised version of the original 2006 Cayman S Press Kit, which explains the confusion around this issue, as it suggests this option wasn't initially available. That it became available at some point later in the model year is further confirmed by the Order Guide I have dated early 2006 that does indeed list the XRR option (but not, unfortunately, the actual wheel sizes, so it's good that I found this document, especially because my .pdf copy of the Order Guide is on another, now broken computer, and I'll have to retrieve it from either the hard-drive itself or a backup copy of its contents).
Anyway, so far as I'm concerned, Q.E.D. and I welcome anybody who disagrees to file a protest against me.