sjfehr

So long as you retrofit the entire option package, it's legal, though. From what I can gather, it's not a reprogramming, it's just changing a pid to telling the car it has sport chrono. Doesn't matter if the dealer does it or you do it via a chinese knock-off durametric in your garage. The switch isn't an issue- it falls under the comfort/convenience clause and could be omitted entirely. The big question is... what about the dash clock? Does that fall under comfort/convenience, too? Or does it have to be retrofitted?

Incidentally... how is retrofit sport chrono turned on? Do most people retrofit the button(s)?

And no, I didn't get a response... because I haven't actually written the PASM letter yet.

Audii-Dudii

Just as it seems silly to require, at great expense, installation of the PASM wiring and computer, et al even though one is then going to then swap to non-PASM shocks as allowed by the rules, making it all superfluous, it seems equally silly to require, at great expense, the addition of a dash clock that adds nothing to the car's performance and won't be used during competition ... but them's how the rules read, at least as it stands right now.

Both Sport Chrono and Sport Mode are turned on via a button mounted on the console below the radio. The Sport Mode update comes with a replacement switch panel and button, and because it has to be installed by a Porsche dealer -- presumably to alter the vehicle's coding -- I assume most people have the button installed. (In fact, the only ways I know to turn on Sport Chrono / Mode is via the button or a software reflash, such as what Softronics offers ... if there's another way to do it, then I am curious as to what it is.)

PedalFaster

Back to the original subject: SCCA Board of Directors Approves Street Category Proposal For Solo Program.

mikewolf

That's great news. It's the right move in my opinion. Stephen did you buy a Cayman? I thought you wanted something more practical than a cr?

PedalFaster

I need something that can carry a rear-facing child seat. My current car can't, but the Cayman can, as Porsche sells a kit that disables the passenger airbag and adds LATCH child seat anchors. For that reason, I've been mentally kicking tires on a lot of Caymans, but try as I might I can't convince myself that they won't get murdered by the Vettes.

LehmanZ06

What class is the 981 base boxster in---2014 and 2015 at the moment ?
Stock

sjfehr

It's not classed yet, but I wrote a letter requesting classing. Most likely A-street and A-stock, but hard to say until SAC has input.

knfeparty

...and my car is no longer competitive.

mikewolf

Because of the z06's?

PedalFaster

If it's any consolation, some of us aren't sure your car was ever super competitive.

No one really knows how the Street classes will shake out yet. I know really smart, fast guys who are convinced that the Corvettes are doomed even in their new, slower classes. I also know really smart, fast guys who are convinced the Corvettes are going to kill their new, slower classes. The best advice I've seen has been to just show up in whatever you've got and give it a shot, adding to the pool of data in the process. The SAC has twelve months to move things around if it turns out they got it completely wrong, but if people bail before even trying, the SAC may not get the data it needs.

knfeparty

Yeah; I felt outgunned even by the base model cars so I don't think there's any hope against a z06. Even if you employ the "putting power down" argument, a z06 putting down half its power and torque is still going to be more than a 996 putting down all of its power and torque for the RPM range the 996 uses during autocross.

And yeah, it was in the ballpark before at least but now it seems hopeless.

burglar

80% driver / 20% car, right?

Earlydays

You got that right!

abqautoxer

There is no doubt in my mind that the C5Z/C6 will struggle to put down power where the 996 really dont on street tires, I've driven both and know what you get with both. Does that mean the C5Z can't get it done? It has decent sized wheels but all the torque is a bit hard to manage with the shorter gearing compared to a base C5. The 911 puts down power relatively easy and doesn't have as much understeer on street tires compared to race tires, you just have to be very willing to experiment with rear toe and front sway bars.

So, no but I don't agree with the doom and gloom of either side at this point.

Audii-Dudii

You may be correct about a 911's chances against a C5Z/C6 on street tires, but what about those of us with Caymans and Boxsters, which make up the bulk of the Porsches competing in AS? I've done some casual comparisons of my 2006 CS against a friend's Z06, both on street tires, and his car didn't seem to suffer all that much...