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Old 07-19-2021, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 4ocious
Sold for $170,500. WOW, just WOW
holy fack!
Old 07-19-2021, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 4ocious
Sold for $170,500. WOW, just WOW
Good lord.
Old 07-19-2021, 10:54 PM
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That Green one was forsale here by a member a few years ago (before dealer got it) and I had the chance to buy it at $125k or something like that...

Well dang... lol
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Old 07-20-2021, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
That Green one was forsale here by a member a few years ago (before dealer got it) and I had the chance to buy it at $125k or something like that...

Well dang... lol
I was that seller. I'm a little surprised by the 170, but the market is insane right now. 964s that used to be 20k are75k. The 991 gt3 has gone up like 100k in the past year. So anyone who bought a couple of years ago and is willing to sell now should make a ton.

That said, on a relative basis, I think the buyer made a mistake. The car is just worse now than it was when I sold it. Plus, there have been PTS 991 turbo s sales at similar prices in better condition very recently.

I sold it because the green drew far too much attention, and everyone knew it was me. I had no anonymity, so I couldn't drive it much or the way I wanted. When I sold it it was unmolested. I like it a lot less now.

I'll also note that I bought it certified pre owned with 2k miles for 127. That was, of course, a different Era, but it made sense to me. This does not make sense, unless this used car market continues as it has been. Even then, I think there are a lot of other choices that would, while still being expensive, make a lot more sense that this car at this price.

Edit: I'll add that there are tons of stories like this. I bought my 993 tts for 112 and within a year or so was offered 250, now probably 450. I also got obliterated selling a amg gt c which has probably gone up 30 percent in the past year.

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Old 07-20-2021, 01:23 PM
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The crazy part of this whole discussion is I was just at the bookstore the other day and picked up a copy of Excellence magazine. They had an article on the market report regarding all 911 Turbos. Their thought on the 997 Turbo was that it was DOWN 9-10% year / year.

I put the magazine away and didn't buy it. I mean, if their market reports are that inaccurate, what's the point. DOWN? Really?

Old 07-20-2021, 01:32 PM
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Well, the entire luxury market is crazy. I think 997 tt/tts prices are up a good 25-30% at least year over year. Was at a P-car cars/coffee event this event and the first guy I met offered to buy my 997tts right away - lol

I got an email today from another dealer asking $750-850K for 2020 Aventador SVJ, 650k for a Mclaren 765LT and 720K for a Ferrari 812....just to put 911 prices in perspective!!!
Old 07-20-2021, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
The crazy part of this whole discussion is I was just at the bookstore the other day and picked up a copy of Excellence magazine. They had an article on the market report regarding all 911 Turbos. Their thought on the 997 Turbo was that it was DOWN 9-10% year / year.
Well, Hagerty's valuation tool still has a Concours quality 997 (.1 or .2) valued at $69K. I sent them an email essentially telling them that if they're going to track prices, they might want to try harder... needless to say, they ignored me.
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Old 07-20-2021, 01:54 PM
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Many have probably seen this video. It's from March so maybe just a couple weeks before some of the crazier auction results but his analysis concludes that the 6spd coupes are up but not tremendously so. 997TTs are more of a stable place to not lose money rather than a ticket to early retirement.


He's had other videos where he flashes a chart comparing the relative price increases different cars have seen over the last year and the 997 Turbo is towards the back of the pack.

Old 07-21-2021, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
Many have probably seen this video. It's from March so maybe just a couple weeks before some of the crazier auction results but his analysis concludes that the 6spd coupes are up but not tremendously so. 997TTs are more of a stable place to not lose money rather than a ticket to early retirement.



He's had other videos where he flashes a chart comparing the relative price increases different cars have seen over the last year and the 997 Turbo is towards the back of the pack.
Yes, they're not crazy up, but overall they are up.

To publish something that says they are down 10%, however, is just nonsense. NOTHING is down.
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Yes, they're not crazy up, but overall they are up.
If you go by recent BaT sales, prices are crazy up…
Old 07-21-2021, 01:39 PM
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I don't follow the 997TT prices too closely, but is this a competitive price? Assuming all things check out....

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/3...-7b0ae9369b86/
Old 07-21-2021, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Indiana Jones
I don't follow the 997TT prices too closely, but is this a competitive price? Assuming all things check out....

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/3...-7b0ae9369b86/
I think its about right. There was a blue one with 57k miles on it that was a no sale bid up to $89k in pcar mart a couple of weeks ago, with a buy it now at $99k. A nice black on with 12k miles recently sold locally for $118k. Mid/low 90's actually may be a bit on the low side TBH. It's due a Major service at 60kmi/6 years which, if not completed, will likely run $6-7k.

That car is actually local for me, hah! From experience, when a budget lots has a high end car like this, they want to get rid of it quickly since the foot traffic they get is not the type of buyer who wants / can afford it. They usually let them sit on the lot for ~2wks then send it to auction.

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Old 07-22-2021, 09:54 AM
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My TTS will soon be for sale on BAT. I'm working with them now to arrange pictures and the write-up. It will be listed at/above $100K with reserve. I'll post a link when it's ready.
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Old 07-22-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 4ocious
My TTS will soon be for sale on BAT. I'm working with them now to arrange pictures and the write-up. It will be listed at/above $100K with reserve. I'll post a link when it's ready.
All the best! Moving to another 911?
Old 07-22-2021, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cnair
All the best! Moving to another 911?
Haven't decided, but moving to another house and the proceeds from the (assumed) sale will help.


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