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Old 10-15-2021, 05:36 PM
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The Asset Seller pulled the rug out from under us at the 11th hour for the grey car as we tried to wire for the mutually agreed upon deal and they sold to the dealer instead...

FYI just so future buyers are aware, the prices paid by the dealer to acquire these cars are as such.

2007 GT3. Meteor Gray. $144,900. WP0AC29977S792266
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Purchased for $110,000.00 from Asset Seller


2010 GT3. White. $149,000. WP0AC2A91AS783517
https://www.toybarncars.com/used/Por...997adb1f11.htm
Purchased for $120,000.00 from the same Asset Seller
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Old 10-15-2021, 05:42 PM
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@idk_alex Are those the confirmed prices that toy barn paid? Or the values that you had agreed with Asset Seller? On the assumption that the rug got pulled out from under you by a higher offer?
Old 10-15-2021, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Congrats! But I am very certain this is a former press car if the VIN is indeed WP0AC2A99AS783460. The car has Press Finish on the build sheet which was only on the builds of the 4 PCNA press cars. There was a Meteor Grey press car, a Guards Red one, a Black one, and a Carrara White one which is VIN WP0AC2A99AS783460. The car at Jaguar West Houston has an identical build to the Carrara White GT3 press car shown in the videos below. Besides the press finish, there is only 1 car that has all these particular options and that is the Carrara White PCNA press car. But the car was almost certainly very well maintained when it was on the PCNA press fleet.
Appreciate the clarification and heads up. It will be interesting to see how well she's kept up after all this time.

Originally Posted by ljmartyre
Nice! Lets go for a drive when you get it back to OC. If I didn't have one already, I would have bought this one.
Working for many big name manufacturers in the past - I can say mostly the cars are very well maintained early on in their life and inspected often.
A tiny part of me is hoping just that...not that it got extra TLC per se but that it was regularly serviced early on b/c it had to be. A couple close friends / track buddies of mine here in OC are already part of the P-car crew...glad to finally become a member. You probably know some, if not all, of them. I need to start unwinding all the track mods on my E39 M5 (MCS 2-way remotes, OSG twin disc clutch, chassis mounted shifter, F/R BBK, etc). and pass the baton to the GT3. Let's definitely link up when I get the car out here!

Originally Posted by Wonderdan
The VIN actually tells you it's a press car... 741 Press Finish... but doesn't really matter imo with that many miles. Just normal fundamentals, clutch, oil leaks etc, LSD, suspension wear etc. I expect the DME to show lots of Range 4's, and with some luck no 5's. Those seats are a bit worn... but I'd grab a pair of buckets anyway if you plan to track... which with those Rotors and Wheels I hope you do

Did you get a chance to sit in it... might rev it a bit and see if anyone has done any work to the flywheel (you could post a vid here and we could tell you)... in which case they probably did the clutch?

Congrats!

PS. PM me if you decide you don't want it!
No chance to sit in it as I'm in CA. Had my cousin who lives down the street stop by and he said the car is shockingly clean. Interior is almost brand new, according to him. Prev owner had a bucket seat in there and just reinstalled the factory sofa last week which explains the "better than I thought it was oging to be" condition of the bolsters. I kept waiting for him to tell me something was royally botched but nope, clean! Would be pretty awesome if 4.0 clutch or a LTW flywheel of sort - I'll definitely have no clue if it has one as I'm still in a newb in the p-car world and look forward to posting in the general section of RL Equally interested to see if the coolant lines are pinned or welded.

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Old 10-15-2021, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Seedster
Appreciate the clarification and heads up. It will be interesting to see how well she's kept up after all this time.


No chance to sit in it as I'm in CA. Had my cousin who lives down the street stop by and he said the car is shockingly clean. Interior is almost brand new, according to him. Prev owner had a bucket seat in there and just reinstalled the factory sofa last week which explains the "better than I thought it was oging to be" condition of the bolsters. I kept waiting for him to tell me something was royally botched but nope, clean! Would be pretty awesome if 4.0 clutch or a LTW flywheel of sort - I'll definitely have no clue if it has one as I'm still in a newb in the p-car world and look forward to posting in the general section of RL Equally interested to see if the coolant lines are pinned or welded.
Most of what I saw was just them not really detailing it very well, everything looked straight... the peppering is common and expected. The only thing I saw in the pictures they sent me was that the PPF was a DIY, you'll want to replace that imo to wrap the panels and quick fix some of the exposed chips at the front of the hood. The splitter is new, Brembo rotors look almost new and the OZ wheels are clean, cage looks to be Cantrell, PSC2 were recently tracked and have a little exterior melting but they are from 19 and look fine. I've actually never seen a 19" OZ on a car since most buy the 18's for racing w/extra side wall, I really like em.

Graphics match the oz center locks... pretty cool
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Old 10-15-2021, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
@Mr. Adair ‘s car. Black DZL graphics and accents. Very unique and beautiful.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVBB2daFpSb/
Knew it looked familiar....Good on him, and yes, what an upgrade....

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Old 10-15-2021, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Seedster
Done and done. Sold to me Hoping PPI / DME pull tomorrow isn't a total disaster. Carfax shows as a 1-owner originally purchased in Katy, TX (where the car is now) and serviced there it's entire life. Sales guy I'm working with says the owner is a banker who used the car for the track and just traded it in for a 991.2 GT3. Are we sure this was a press car?
Good for you. I contacted a couple of members to let them know about it, and told them just buy it and you can unwind it afterwards, according to the website anyway. Not as long a period as Carmax but good enough. I think for somebody looking for a terrific fun car it looks really sweet. You should be really stoked.
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Old 10-16-2021, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
The Asset Seller pulled the rug out from under us at the 11th hour for the grey car as we tried to wire for the mutually agreed upon deal and they sold to the dealer instead...

FYI just so future buyers are aware, the prices paid by the dealer to acquire these cars are as such.

2007 GT3. Meteor Gray. $144,900. WP0AC29977S792266
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Purchased for $110,000.00 from Asset Seller


2010 GT3. White. $149,000. WP0AC2A91AS783517
https://www.toybarncars.com/used/Por...997adb1f11.htm
Purchased for $120,000.00 from the same Asset Seller
looks like the white .2 is now 154k
Old 10-16-2021, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by idk_alex
The Asset Seller pulled the rug out from under us at the 11th hour for the grey car as we tried to wire for the mutually agreed upon deal and they sold to the dealer instead...

FYI just so future buyers are aware, the prices paid by the dealer to acquire these cars are as such.

2007 GT3. Meteor Gray. $144,900. WP0AC29977S792266
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ckType=listing
Purchased for $110,000.00 from Asset Seller


2010 GT3. White. $149,000. WP0AC2A91AS783517
https://www.toybarncars.com/used/Por...997adb1f11.htm
Purchased for $120,000.00 from the same Asset Seller

And that's where the problem lies. These cars are being inflated by greedy dealers. You guys, don't sell to dealers. You're messing up the market for the enthusiasts and even the current owners as they no longer want to drive their cars.
Old 10-16-2021, 08:41 AM
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Impossible to do in broader scale. Over time, if the dealers are paying more they’ll win. You can’t expect people to leave money on the table. Sounds great in theory but doesn’t work in practice.

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And that's where the problem lies. These cars are being inflated by greedy dealers. You guys, don't sell to dealers. You're messing up the market for the enthusiasts and even the current owners as they no longer want to drive their cars.
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Old 10-16-2021, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Speeds5
Impossible to do in broader scale. Over time, if the dealers are paying more they’ll win. You can’t expect people to leave money on the table. Sounds great in theory but doesn’t work in practice.
I don't think the dealers are necessarily paying more (anecdotally) but they're able to pay/ wire the asking price right away as most of us common folk (still privileged) need to work with our banks to send financed funds. The difference can be hours or couple days and the seller will take the path of least resistance which is totally understandable. There is hope as I see a few RLers who are offering their cars behind the scenes and I hope that works out for community buyers.

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Old 10-16-2021, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Cho
I don't think the dealers are necessarily paying more (anecdotally) but they're able to pay/ wire the asking price right away as most of us common folk (still privileged) need to work with our banks to send financed funds. The difference can be hours or couple days and the seller will take the past of least resistance which is totally understandable. There is hope as I see a few RLers who are offering their cars behind the scenes and I hope that works out for community buyers.
Agreed… most have no intention of selling to a dealer but Im not so wealthy to intentionally leave money on the table. You can’t expect the random old dude that sold these two GT3s to even think about contacting the forum to find enthusiasts.

I’ve been transparent for months that mine will be on BAT before I hit 15k miles because I want a track machine. BAT has the potential for driving a higher number, doesn’t mean I wouldn’t accept a number from here. Most of us are reasonable… the question is how reasonable are the prices in general right now.

Everyone knows our cars have two factors driving them, dollar value is diminishing and the car is getting a cult following cause it’s badass.

I’m not trying to feed my family by trying to flip my car, I’m countering the risk that a high mileage highly molested one is essentially un-sellable in a downturn. It’s not Greed it’s common sense… what other asset has anyone owned this year that has kept par with the “real” economy. I’d have 4 of these if my wife would let me.
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Old 10-16-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Cho
I don't think the dealers are necessarily paying more (anecdotally) but they're able to pay/ wire the asking price right away as most of us common folk (still privileged) need to work with our banks to send financed funds. The difference can be hours or couple days and the seller will take the path of least resistance which is totally understandable. There is hope as I see a few RLers who are offering their cars behind the scenes and I hope that works out for community buyers.
Dealers also ask fewer questions. Basically you have car, you get offer.

Private sellers need PPI, bank financing like mentioned above, and many more questions, rightfully so as for many of us this is the second largest purchase we'll make in our lives.

Or in my opinion sell to one of the dealers that will mark it up so they can stay in business, but do so in a reasonable fashion. I think we all know who these dealers are and I don't need to mention them for the 100th time.
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Old 10-16-2021, 01:58 PM
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Carrara White .2 GT3 with 19k miles. PCCB, sport buckets, DEM, and no sport chrono. $128k original MSRP. Asking price is $160k. My ideal spec for a .2 GT3.

https://www.porschelittleton.com/exo...998710ce1b.htm

VIN: WP0AC2A9XAS783578
I emailed the dealer about this car and it is still availible. He said he would get back to me about paint, DME, and an explanation about the missing Sport Bucket Seats and if they are available/included.

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Old 10-16-2021, 02:57 PM
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Carrara White .2 RS with 25k miles. Literally a zero option car so a stripper spec. $133k original MSRP. Asking price is $230k.

Has a 5 lug conversion and a GMG roll bar with harnesses so if I had to guess this car has seen some track time. Also important to note is that this car had an engine replacement back in 2015 at 10k miles.

Current listing:
https://www.millermotorcars.com/2010...rs-3.8-c-5307/

Previous listing:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...-for-sale.html

VIN: WP0AC2A92AS783672

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Old 10-16-2021, 04:34 PM
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Allthingsporsches got another low mileage .2 with a pretty rare, although weird in my opinion, spec.

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