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02-09-2013, 09:31 AM

#721

tasman

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Originally Posted by Izzone

When Steve gets off his *** and post my video, 2:27 is pretty easy to hit on ho ho. I did this on lap 2 in his car. Leaving a bit of margin for error since it wasn't my car and I don't know Hoosier that well

Usually my tbl is close to actual lap times...it was too far away, knowing I wasn't consistent at all

A day in Steve car a 2:25 is possible with minimal risk once I would figure out flow / grip

Was a nice end to a de career

Picked up my vintage race. Car yesterday , first race in three weeks

Enjoy. Can't wait to hear what you think.

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02-09-2013, 10:13 AM

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Izzone

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Originally Posted by Izzone

Enjoy. Can't wait to hear what you think.

Having to modify the interior to fit in it

Old cars are tiny

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02-09-2013, 11:17 AM

#723

4forme

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Originally Posted by Vonschmidt

Now that's cooking. Hope everyone made it home safely. Let's get together sometime. Have trailer will travel.

agreed. Most likely file too large. You'll have to resize it. If you need help send it over and I'll take care of it and send it back to you.

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02-09-2013, 11:19 AM

#724

4forme

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Originally Posted by tasman

Might have to change the picture size to make it work. That is usually my problem. Usually have to have my 16 year old help me otherwise it takes me a day to do this type of thing.

agreed. Most likely file too large. You'll have to resize it. If you need help send it over and I'll take care of it and send it back to you.

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02-09-2013, 12:29 PM

#725

dasams

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Originally Posted by kyrocks

BTW, love how everyone's avatars changed after COTA...

Last edited by dasams; 02-10-2013 at 02:34 AM.

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02-09-2013, 01:03 PM

#726

ShakeNBake

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Originally Posted by 4forme

Sorry, no sound on these, realized after this session the batteries in my external mic were dead....

Start of lap2 KY blindly follows Jenks into the weeds and then crosses the track and just barely saves it from going off on the other side before T3. At the start of lap 4 I get as close to rearending Zweebach as I ever care to;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39mLv...ature=youtu.be

at 1:45 KY completes a nice 2 wheel curb hop;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGxP6...ature=youtu.be

What are you guys running for wing? Looking at your vids, seems that you are out-dragging my 3.8 with full wing by 5-7mph down the front straight with the same exit speed out of 15. I don't have no idea how to use aero, I might as well back it off.

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02-09-2013, 02:43 PM

#727

Veloce Raptor

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Jacy, IMO keep your wing at full, or at most back it off one click. In tracks with fast sweepers like TWS, a lot of rear grip is really beneficial. If you lose a couple of MPH on the straight, you will more than make it up in the corners, under braking, and in your ability to actually hit apexes...

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02-09-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor

Yeah, that's what I'm doing now - my concern is that I don't have the subconscious mental model for how it impacts the car's handling, nor am I using all of it. Sure, you can feel the grip, but there is also the faith and confidence that the grip will be there. Maybe I'm making this too hard. Non the less, there is 1-2 seconds in T1 & T2 alone if I grow a set. You should be able to peak at 150 on entrance and leave at 115 out of 2.

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02-09-2013, 04:36 PM

#729

sstjohn

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Originally Posted by Izzone

Patience my good man. I'm working at a Greek pace.

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02-09-2013, 06:43 PM

#730

4forme

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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake

full wing on mine. Think KY is as well.

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02-09-2013, 06:59 PM

#731

TRAKCAR

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Max wing all the time.

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02-09-2013, 07:03 PM

#732

ShakeNBake

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Originally Posted by 4forme

full wing on mine. Think KY is as well.

Wow - I wonder where the speed is coming from then - you guys running stock weight, any power upgrades/tunes?

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02-09-2013, 07:17 PM

#733

Izzone

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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake

Wow - I wonder where the speed is coming from then - you guys running stock weight, any power upgrades/tunes?

Corner exit speed, a lower speed at apex and later application to gas multiplies down the straight

I also am full wing with gurney, stock tune on a 23,000 mile motor

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02-09-2013, 07:31 PM

#734

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Corner exit speed, a lower speed at apex and later application to gas multiplies down the straight

I also am full wing with gurney, stock tune on a 23,000 mile motor

Yeah, I get that - 101 stuff, but I watched the vids/data of 4forme killin it at tws and he is exiting smilar, if 1-2mph slower, but ending up 5-7mph faster by end. So it's power, weight or wing.

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02-09-2013, 07:38 PM

#735

Izzone

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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake

Yeah, I get that - 101 stuff, but I watched the vids/data of 4forme killin it at tws and he is exiting smilar, if 1-2mph slower, but ending up 5-7mph faster by end. So it's power, weight or wing.

On gas earlier, car is higher in revs, higher torque

When I used to chase Trakcar around the track (before he bought his point and shoot 4.0) I leraed it was the only way to get a away from him

What exhaust do yu have....some of those center bypass things rob HP and dont tell customers before they buy them

Do you guys run the same data? if you do send me the file ill take a look at it

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