Hoosier R6 longevity & cost vs R compound street tire AT THE TRACK
03-28-2012, 12:25 PM
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03-28-2012, 12:32 PM
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03-28-2012, 01:05 PM
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On my first ever day at Sebring, I ran skinny Bridgestone RE-11 245/285 on 8" and 10" skinny wheels. On the last session that day I ran 295/345 Hoosier A6 on the fat wheels. All sessions with the traffic in the PBOC Solo (not Super Solo) group with limited passing. This was in my Fiat, a car vastly slower at a racetrack compared to an Aero Beetle.
Times:
RE-11: 2:24.3
A6: 2:22.9
So, in my opinion, if people will buy R6 to run them for 100 heat cycles, despite of them being 20 secs slower than brand new R6, they are better off and safer running a full street tire.
Shaved RA1 are long lasting and fast.
If you're forced to run 19", consider the Hankook RS3, faster than RE-11, and the RE-11 are already faster than the MPSS. These 3 are full street tires, and they are Heat Cycle resistant, in the sense that you will get them to the cords before they are heat cycled out . You can drive on them to the track, rain or shine.
For me, R6 16HC at most. A6 8HC. Slicks 4HC. Running them beyond is fine but slow, and then it gets really slow.
Times:
RE-11: 2:24.3
A6: 2:22.9
So, in my opinion, if people will buy R6 to run them for 100 heat cycles, despite of them being 20 secs slower than brand new R6, they are better off and safer running a full street tire.
Shaved RA1 are long lasting and fast.
If you're forced to run 19", consider the Hankook RS3, faster than RE-11, and the RE-11 are already faster than the MPSS. These 3 are full street tires, and they are Heat Cycle resistant, in the sense that you will get them to the cords before they are heat cycled out . You can drive on them to the track, rain or shine.
For me, R6 16HC at most. A6 8HC. Slicks 4HC. Running them beyond is fine but slow, and then it gets really slow.
03-28-2012, 01:24 PM
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Rad..."fiat vastly slower than a aero beetle"? BS here we go again! LOL ;-)
03-28-2012, 01:32 PM
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Fun fact, the new VW Beetle 991 S on full street tires is only 1 second slower at the Nurburgring than my Fiat on race compound Corsa System tires. The 991 S in r-comp tires is faster.
So, I will have to get my arm ready to give point-by to the new Beetles too at the DE Cup.
03-28-2012, 01:52 PM
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Rad I'm still trying to figure out what it takes to get into DE Cup...LOL I guess I don't drink enough ;-)
03-28-2012, 02:19 PM
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03-28-2012, 05:00 PM
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03-28-2012, 06:14 PM
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That's what all the magazines in the World say, and I'm sticking to the media experts opinion.
Fun fact, the new VW Beetle 991 S on full street tires is only 1 second slower at the Nurburgring than my Fiat on race compound Corsa System tires. The 991 S in r-comp tires is faster.
So, I will have to get my arm ready to give point-by to the new Beetles too at the DE Cup.
Fun fact, the new VW Beetle 991 S on full street tires is only 1 second slower at the Nurburgring than my Fiat on race compound Corsa System tires. The 991 S in r-comp tires is faster.
So, I will have to get my arm ready to give point-by to the new Beetles too at the DE Cup.
03-28-2012, 07:11 PM
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Aero Beetle 4.0 RS ==> 7.27
Aero Beetle 3.8 RS ==> 7.32
Fiat 458 Italia ==> 7:38
Fiat 430 Scuderia ==> 7:39
Aero Beetle 3.8 ==> 7:40
The New Beetle 991S ==> 7:40 on street tires.
All the Aero Beetles are good, the 991 is faster than a comparable 997, and Fiats are not as good, but not bad at all.
Aero Beetle 4.0 RS ==> 7.27
Aero Beetle 3.8 RS ==> 7.32
Fiat 458 Italia ==> 7:38
Fiat 430 Scuderia ==> 7:39
Aero Beetle 3.8 ==> 7:40
The New Beetle 991S ==> 7:40 on street tires.
All the Aero Beetles are good, the 991 is faster than a comparable 997, and Fiats are not as good, but not bad at all.
03-28-2012, 07:21 PM
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We should have a Platinum DE Cup and a Gold DE Cup at Sebring.
- Platinum DE Cup: street cars under 2:20
- Gold DE Cup: street cars under 2:25
- Cup of Coffee: street cars under 2:30
- Moving Chicane Cup: 85Gold, my Coxster, the pace car, the SuperSolo drivers that swear they are the pace car, the Aero Beetles that always break, 50% of the PCA Club Racers.
- Platinum DE Cup: street cars under 2:20
- Gold DE Cup: street cars under 2:25
- Cup of Coffee: street cars under 2:30
- Moving Chicane Cup: 85Gold, my Coxster, the pace car, the SuperSolo drivers that swear they are the pace car, the Aero Beetles that always break, 50% of the PCA Club Racers.
03-28-2012, 08:00 PM
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