The question is: Keep my '07 GT3 or go for the '10 GT3?
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Wake up pal, you'll take a bigger bath switching cars. Every time.
You have muddled thinking. You just really WANT the new car.
If you can afford it, DO IT! That maritime GT3 is incredible.
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Did you intend to be offensive?
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But you are supposed to stop me getting a new car! ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I am tempted by the maritime blue ... I guess I will just have to see if I can sell or accept the trade in ...
I agree both cars will (continue) to depreciate as do they all ...
I'm thinking of leasing the new car (if I get it) that way I will be less likely to coset it in the garage (which explains why I have only done 2500mi in the last 2 years)
watch this space!
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I am tempted by the maritime blue ... I guess I will just have to see if I can sell or accept the trade in ...
I agree both cars will (continue) to depreciate as do they all ...
I'm thinking of leasing the new car (if I get it) that way I will be less likely to coset it in the garage (which explains why I have only done 2500mi in the last 2 years)
watch this space!
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it's not really about getting a faster car ... cant really explain why ... I guess I should get "car therapy" ...
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Leif: FWIW, I'd keep the car you have —Strekesp. if it is set up how you like it and it has been reliable.
2010 GT3 is nice(r) enough to justify the change up, but not enough to make changing up from the 2007-2008 a no-brainer. Then again, if PCM is in both cars, the old system would be enough to have me down at the dealer with a jar of Vaseline handy.
pete
2010 GT3 is nice(r) enough to justify the change up, but not enough to make changing up from the 2007-2008 a no-brainer. Then again, if PCM is in both cars, the old system would be enough to have me down at the dealer with a jar of Vaseline handy.
pete
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Leif: FWIW, I'd keep the car you have —Strekesp. if it is set up how you like it and it has been reliable.
2010 GT3 is nice(r) enough to justify the change up, but not enough to make changing up from the 2007-2008 a no-brainer. Then again, if PCM is in both cars, the old system would be enough to have me down at the dealer with a jar of Vaseline handy.
pete
2010 GT3 is nice(r) enough to justify the change up, but not enough to make changing up from the 2007-2008 a no-brainer. Then again, if PCM is in both cars, the old system would be enough to have me down at the dealer with a jar of Vaseline handy.
pete
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to perfect ... and I dont expect there to be another production run of the .2.
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You are in the same place I am but my trade up would be from my 2007 GT3 to the new RS. The value of my car is around £62,000 and the RS list is £104,000 before any options so the minimum it would cost me would be £42,000 (approx. $65,000)!!
Now the RS is clearly a great car but its not £42k better so the GT3 stays and the RS will be sold on hopefully netting me a little profit
Now the RS is clearly a great car but its not £42k better so the GT3 stays and the RS will be sold on hopefully netting me a little profit
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I drove the 2010 GT3 and could not notice a difference in feeling, steering, power or brakes with my 2007 GT3 RS.
I have asked other people that have driven it, and they don't notice the difference between a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 GT3 either.
At the Nurburgring, the 2007 GT3 lapped in 7:45 and the 2007 RS in 7:43, the 2 secs difference was mostly due to Aero (the RS has plenty more downforce).
The 2010 GT3 has even more downforce than the 2007 RS, so the 7:40 lap has plenty to do with the new high speed grip. A difference of 5 seconds over such long distance is nothing, something like 0.6 secs per 60 secs of lap time (0.6 secs at Lime Rock, 1 second at Laguna Seca if you can pass the sound meter).
So, yes the 2010 GT3 is just a hair faster, but is it worth $130k when you can find clean 2007 now on the 70s, not in my opinion.
The 2010 GT3 is a nice upgrade if you come from a 996 GT3, but coming from a 2007 GT3, I can only see the 2010 GT3 RS as a marginal upgrade (the media has not found significant differences between the 2010 GT3 and 2010 GT3 RS).
Test drive a 2010 GT3 and you'll see. In California, sales tax + Reg is another 10%, 997 GT3 are moving at $75k from their asking prices in the low 80s. The difference to a 2010 GT3 in your garage is close to $70k.
Take those $70k, and buy a second nice car, and there are many sweet cars in this price range, used and new.
I have asked other people that have driven it, and they don't notice the difference between a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 GT3 either.
At the Nurburgring, the 2007 GT3 lapped in 7:45 and the 2007 RS in 7:43, the 2 secs difference was mostly due to Aero (the RS has plenty more downforce).
The 2010 GT3 has even more downforce than the 2007 RS, so the 7:40 lap has plenty to do with the new high speed grip. A difference of 5 seconds over such long distance is nothing, something like 0.6 secs per 60 secs of lap time (0.6 secs at Lime Rock, 1 second at Laguna Seca if you can pass the sound meter).
So, yes the 2010 GT3 is just a hair faster, but is it worth $130k when you can find clean 2007 now on the 70s, not in my opinion.
The 2010 GT3 is a nice upgrade if you come from a 996 GT3, but coming from a 2007 GT3, I can only see the 2010 GT3 RS as a marginal upgrade (the media has not found significant differences between the 2010 GT3 and 2010 GT3 RS).
Test drive a 2010 GT3 and you'll see. In California, sales tax + Reg is another 10%, 997 GT3 are moving at $75k from their asking prices in the low 80s. The difference to a 2010 GT3 in your garage is close to $70k.
Take those $70k, and buy a second nice car, and there are many sweet cars in this price range, used and new.
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I drove the 2010 GT3 and could not notice a difference in feeling, steering, power or brakes with my 2007 GT3 RS.
I have asked other people that have driven it, and they don't notice the difference between a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 GT3 either.
At the Nurburgring, the 2007 GT3 lapped in 7:45 and the 2007 RS in 7:43, the 2 secs difference was mostly due to Aero (the RS has plenty more downforce).
The 2010 GT3 has even more downforce than the 2007 RS, so the 7:40 lap has plenty to do with the new high speed grip. A difference of 5 seconds over such long distance is nothing, something like 0.6 secs per 60 secs of lap time (0.6 secs at Lime Rock, 1 second at Laguna Seca if you can pass the sound meter).
So, yes the 2010 GT3 is just a hair faster, but is it worth $130k when you can find clean 2007 now on the 70s, not in my opinion.
The 2010 GT3 is a nice upgrade if you come from a 996 GT3, but coming from a 2007 GT3, I can only see the 2010 GT3 RS as a marginal upgrade (the media has not found significant differences between the 2010 GT3 and 2010 GT3 RS).
Test drive a 2010 GT3 and you'll see. In California, sales tax + Reg is another 10%, 997 GT3 are moving at $75k from their asking prices in the low 80s. The difference to a 2010 GT3 in your garage is close to $70k.
Take those $70k, and buy a second nice car, and there are many sweet cars in this price range, used and new.
I have asked other people that have driven it, and they don't notice the difference between a 997.1 GT3 and a 997.2 GT3 either.
At the Nurburgring, the 2007 GT3 lapped in 7:45 and the 2007 RS in 7:43, the 2 secs difference was mostly due to Aero (the RS has plenty more downforce).
The 2010 GT3 has even more downforce than the 2007 RS, so the 7:40 lap has plenty to do with the new high speed grip. A difference of 5 seconds over such long distance is nothing, something like 0.6 secs per 60 secs of lap time (0.6 secs at Lime Rock, 1 second at Laguna Seca if you can pass the sound meter).
So, yes the 2010 GT3 is just a hair faster, but is it worth $130k when you can find clean 2007 now on the 70s, not in my opinion.
The 2010 GT3 is a nice upgrade if you come from a 996 GT3, but coming from a 2007 GT3, I can only see the 2010 GT3 RS as a marginal upgrade (the media has not found significant differences between the 2010 GT3 and 2010 GT3 RS).
Test drive a 2010 GT3 and you'll see. In California, sales tax + Reg is another 10%, 997 GT3 are moving at $75k from their asking prices in the low 80s. The difference to a 2010 GT3 in your garage is close to $70k.
Take those $70k, and buy a second nice car, and there are many sweet cars in this price range, used and new.