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Old 06-20-2009, 12:53 AM
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Default What's the Consensus upgraded Steel or PCCB for the Mk2 GT3?

It's getting close to order time. I must admit the new Big Reds are tempting for a lot of reasons such as bigger, cheaper, less fragile equal in performance, BUT the new PCCBs are still lighter yet. So, are PCCBs still a must have option on the new GT3 and RS?

Thanks for any input,

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Thats the $8,840 question I am wrestling with now...

You have an '07 with steel or PCCB? How many miles? Do you track?
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Originally Posted by MJones
Thats the $8,840 question I am wrestling with now...
Ceramics are a no brainer!

You can take them off and add steel, but the reverse is not a practical option.

If you don't like the ceramics, you can easily sell them to another Rennlister, and recover your money.

You'll get more on a trade-in with ceramics.

Oh, and they are lighter, much better to balance the car with.

Now, if you are always using the brakes to save yourself... well then they get expensive..... but an accomplished (or aspiring) driver's bias mitigates against over use of the brakes.. and the ceramics win (imo)!

Enjoy the journey!
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Originally Posted by PogueMoHone
Ceramics are a no brainer!

You can take them off and add steel, but the reverse is not a practical option.

If you don't like the ceramics, you can easily sell them to another Rennlister, and recover your money.

You'll get more on a trade-in with ceramics.

Oh, and they are lighter, much better to balance the car with.

Now, if you are always using the brakes to save yourself... well then they get expensive..... but an accomplished (or aspiring) driver's bias mitigates against over use of the brakes.. and the ceramics win (imo)!

Enjoy the journey!

thats a good point.
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Originally Posted by MJones
Thats the $8,840 question I am wrestling with now...

You have an '07 with steel or PCCB? How many miles? Do you track?
My 07 has the Big Reds and Ive been very happy with them. Honestly, I cant imagine them being any better. I am leaning towards the PCCBs on my new order however, I dont know why?

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Originally Posted by flash1034
My 07 has the Big Reds and Ive been very happy with them. Honestly, I cant imagine them being any better. I am leaning towards the PCCBs on my new order however, I dont know why?

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the big yellows got great street appeal....... when you got yellows and a dude rolls up next to you with reds, you hold you nose up and drive away all smug.....
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
the big yellows got great street appeal....... when you got yellows and a dude rolls up next to you with reds, you hold you nose up and drive away all smug.....
the big reds got great street appeal....... when you got reds and a dude rolls up next to you with yellows, you hold your wallet up and drive away all smug..... [/
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Originally Posted by Adam2S
the big reds got great street appeal....... when you got reds and a dude rolls up next to you with yellows, you hold your wallet up and drive away all smug..... [/

hehehehe.... yeah, i got the Reds too....
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PCCB is nice to have..
But personally, I'd take the CF bucket seats as my option. The interior of the car cudnt look any better...
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Originally Posted by PogueMoHone
Ceramics are a no brainer!

You can take them off and add steel, but the reverse is not a practical option.

If you don't like the ceramics, you can easily sell them to another Rennlister, and recover your money.

You'll get more on a trade-in with ceramics.

Oh, and they are lighter, much better to balance the car with.

Now, if you are always using the brakes to save yourself... well then they get expensive..... but an accomplished (or aspiring) driver's bias mitigates against over use of the brakes.. and the ceramics win (imo)!

Enjoy the journey!

Can't say I agree with all your ideas.

I've owned a PCCB 997S and currently a red brake club coupe. The only appeal that PCCB has is less unsprung weight and less brake dust. I don't find that the red brake is inferior on the track and street.

It will help you sell the car easier, but you can only get a fraction of the cost back. Selling it separately, you can just recover a fraction of the cost too.

With the 997.2GT3 red brake even bigger than the .1, I doubt that the PCCB will add any significant stopping advantage to the car.
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
Can't say I agree with all your ideas.

I've owned a PCCB 997S and currently a red brake club coupe. The only appeal that PCCB has is less unsprung weight and less brake dust. I don't find that the red brake is inferior on the track and street.

It will help you sell the car easier, but you can only get a fraction of the cost back. Selling it separately, you can just recover a fraction of the cost too.

With the 997.2GT3 red brake even bigger than the .1, I doubt that the PCCB will add any significant stopping advantage to the car.
also a good point
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
I doubt that the PCCB will add any significant stopping advantage to the car.
Obviously, you have not yet spent enough time on the track with PCCBs.
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The new larger steel brakes are supposedly incredible and certainly seem to cast the $9K (!!!!) price delta in an unfavorable light, unless the car is used almost exclusively on track.
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Originally Posted by BobbyC
Obviously, you have not yet spent enough time on the track with PCCBs.
That's true, I've only done 3 track days with the PCCB car.

But isn't it true that a lot of GT3 track drivers use stock red or brembo brakes over PCCB? is it only due to cost issue?
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Originally Posted by Targa Tim
That's true, I've only done 3 track days with the PCCB car.

But isn't it true that a lot of GT3 track drivers use stock red or brembo brakes over PCCB? is it only due to cost issue?
I have ~ 50 track days on my OEM PCCB rotors. The last braking (2 days ago) was as good as the first braking over 2 years ago. Of course, I have gone thru about 6 sets of brake pads. Rotors still going strong. My track buddies with steels on the GT3's have to brake earlier...


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