MJSpeed

at that point I'll let you know

roberga

DNDN just got me some toys :-)

mooty

we have a few very good dealers here. and they know how alex abuses his car! sales and mkt'g dont sell cars. it's the service dept that keeps me going back. and the receptionists certainly add to the incentive. .. no, not the one at the place i saw you at last time...

mooty

no, but if you have sharkwerk decal on it, you are dead meat.

yo, send me some more shark fin decal's alex.

NoSubEDU

A few things:

1) While I do believe in trying to forge a good relationship with your service manager and technician please do not forget that when the **** hits the fan they all work for somebody - and that somebody is NOT YOU. I had a very similar experience with my Audi S4 and I swore I would never buy another Audi again. I was so burned by my "friendly" dealership and the marque itself I don't feel comfortable buying a car from them. (I've bought the last 4 cars out of state)

2) I know GMG and the Sharky team have some terrific products. They do exactly what they are supposed to do - enhance your driving experience. However, there is going to be some element of risk when you start tuning a car - especially a car that is so highly tuned such as the GT3.

Keep this in mind re: the exhaust on this car; AWE Tuning designed an exhaust for this car. It is not cheap. They did all kinds of testing, removed mufflers, tried straight pipes, bypasses, cats, etc. They ended up with a very similar design to OEM but used lighter/stronger material. It results in *some* power gain but really offers a change in sound. You are not going to get much power from an exhaust change on these cars.

The point I want to make is that AWE learned something from engineering their exhaust. That is that the OEM exhaust is an extremely well engineered and very tuned exhaust. Manipulating any component of the exhaust would lose power. I believe AWE claimed the "pulsing" from the exhaust was integral to the motor making power. This all affects the pressure inside the case. You can see where Porsche may be able to make a case that altering the exhaust does affect oil leaks. Just my 2 cents.

mooty

^ duly noted.

i dont mod my cars much, anything i dont know how to personally get on and off i dont do it. and i dont know one end of a hammer from the other, last time i thought philips head was my boss' head who's name was philip. so with that in mind, my car is pretty stock.

if they want to pin the RMS on some exhaust mod, fine, bite me.
but what about the rest of the ppl who's RMS leaked without ANY MOD.
i dont need them to fix the car, i just like to hear an answer... a real answer... maybe like, we really dont know, we are working on the sol'n. we messed up, or even, they all leak as we engineer'd the leak into it... but dont tell me conflicting info. you drive too much it leaks, you drive too little it leaks, you stared at it too long, it leaks.

NoSubEDU

^agreed.

The classic game of telephone. Who really knows what Porsche is thinking/saying??

Carrera GT

Was it dealer installed?

Did they adjust the ride height and alignment to compensate?

Without a four wheel thrust alignment, you're playing with fire.

Snowboarder54

Alex, it was a slow and boring day, so I just returned from taking the 3 on a round trip out "the test track" with the sunroof and both windows opened. Thank you and James for the wonderful bypass!!! Nothing like it. By the way, 30,489 miles.........no RMS!!! Just a lot of worn out MPSC's and not very high GPM!! hehe. When you bring'n the tadpole up?

Kit_Chris

Maybe SharkWerks should develop their own RMS and supply one with every GT3 exhaust kit they sell..

Regards,
Chris

seefouress

I'm wondering if someone (Sharkwerks, etc?) will provide any supporting data to help refute the claim of back pressure reduction damage? I can't imagine that the aftermarket exhaust people are going to let this thing go unchallenged.

MJones

I cant see that any aftermarket supplier can....
Don't believe that they have the scientific engineering staff or R&D facilities / test equipment to tackle a problem like this and completely document their findings.
It's way beyond an audible vroom vroom

JMHO

todinlaw

Speaking of Scientific engineering how about this for a"control group" My car had RMS 1 year before I did the Sharkwerks bypass, so how is that for Science? If we did a pole of all the GT2, 3's and TT with RMS the ones that had a bypass would account for a small percentage of leakers.

tcsracing1

it is no secret porsche knows that the RMS in 2007 GT3's is faulty. They are running a way too big a tab to keep up with it.
The strategy is to ignore any RMS warranty problem on basis of modification. (i.e:exhaust)
Dealers can alter this if willing.

Bottom line is they really cant wait for warrantys to run out. they rue the day until then.
They will keep installing bogus seals to hold off problems until the day of extended warrantys run out.

The true problem is probably somewhere else.... but alas, they will keep pluggin seals untl then.

those with 2008's are in the clear i suspect

mooty

no, i have a 2008, it pees as well.