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#826
With a response like that, you must own one...
I wasn't impressed at all. Seat sits high like a truck. Clutch way too light. Gearbox is meh. You can feel the 3,700 lbs, albeit, I admit they do a decent job masking the weight with the suspension tune. The interior is just way too Fiesta for me. I don't care if they put a Ferrari V12 under the hood. It's overhyped, and overpriced. Unless you just want to go fast at the track. Then it's a bargain. I would pick up a Golf R before I ever dropped $60k on a fast Ford Fiesta. But again, to each their own.
I wasn't impressed at all. Seat sits high like a truck. Clutch way too light. Gearbox is meh. You can feel the 3,700 lbs, albeit, I admit they do a decent job masking the weight with the suspension tune. The interior is just way too Fiesta for me. I don't care if they put a Ferrari V12 under the hood. It's overhyped, and overpriced. Unless you just want to go fast at the track. Then it's a bargain. I would pick up a Golf R before I ever dropped $60k on a fast Ford Fiesta. But again, to each their own.
Did you drive it down the road or did you bang out 8,250rpm shifts screaming to 140mph? It's like having your own pet gorilla in the garage, incredible driving experience.
Can it replace a 911? No. Does it compliment one well? Yes absolutely. Strong buy all around. So is the new Corvette Stingray and so is a used 997 - all great cars - good problems to have.
#827
Well at least you have driven one, most haven't even SEEN one and have huge opinions. Clutch is light (I like that), seats don't sit as low as a Porsche (but the height is adjustable i'm guessing you didn't adjust it down), and the interior is all business - great Recaro seats, garbage radio (good) and the rest is not luxury.
Did you drive it down the road or did you bang out 8,250rpm shifts screaming to 140mph? It's like having your own pet gorilla in the garage, incredible driving experience.
Can it replace a 911? No. Does it compliment one well? Yes absolutely. Strong buy all around. So is the new Corvette Stingray and so is a used 997 - all great cars - good problems to have.
Did you drive it down the road or did you bang out 8,250rpm shifts screaming to 140mph? It's like having your own pet gorilla in the garage, incredible driving experience.
Can it replace a 911? No. Does it compliment one well? Yes absolutely. Strong buy all around. So is the new Corvette Stingray and so is a used 997 - all great cars - good problems to have.
I test drove one last spring. At the time the dealer had 3 on the lot, and was asking a ridiculous $10k ADM, wouldn't budge....even though they had three sitting there. I was strongly considering one until I test drove it (that and the ridiculous ADM). Yes, the engine is a demon, and the brakes for that matter. But it just didn't tick enough boxes for me. And the cockpit was lacking big time, a deal breaker for me. Especially the seat, which reminded me of a GTR. Again, this car shines on a track, but IMHO for a weekend/fun car it's lacking.
#828
Found another Targa 4, but not an S with very high miles.. but price is actually attractive! Thinking to go check it out tomorrow:
http://www.wilkielexus.com/VehicleDe...-PA/2971796503
http://www.wilkielexus.com/VehicleDe...-PA/2971796503
https://danbury.porschedealer.com/in...tallic+1154905
If interested, give Van Kolton a call at 203-814-2245.
There is a shop around the corner (forget name but is in another one of my posts on this car) that can do a PPI. I also got a PM from a shop that will do the PPI - PM me if you want their info.
I am not at all affiliated with Danbury Porsche...would just like to live vicariously through someone that buys this car that I would really like to have ;-)
#829
I test drove one last spring. At the time the dealer had 3 on the lot, and was asking a ridiculous $10k ADM, wouldn't budge....even though they had three sitting there.
#830
There is a Midnight Blue with Sand Beige (fairly rare color combo) at Danbury Porsche. I was very interested in it but there is too much of a spread in what they will give me for my 997.1 and what they want for the 997.2. If I didn't have my current car I would buy this one in a heartbeat.
https://danbury.porschedealer.com/in...tallic+1154905
If interested, give Van Kolton a call at 203-814-2245.
There is a shop around the corner (forget name but is in another one of my posts on this car) that can do a PPI. I also got a PM from a shop that will do the PPI - PM me if you want their info.
I am not at all affiliated with Danbury Porsche...would just like to live vicariously through someone that buys this car that I would really like to have ;-)
https://danbury.porschedealer.com/in...tallic+1154905
If interested, give Van Kolton a call at 203-814-2245.
There is a shop around the corner (forget name but is in another one of my posts on this car) that can do a PPI. I also got a PM from a shop that will do the PPI - PM me if you want their info.
I am not at all affiliated with Danbury Porsche...would just like to live vicariously through someone that buys this car that I would really like to have ;-)
#831
And it is somehow a 2009 991.2!
Ultra rare indeed ;-)
"This amazing Targa 4 is the 991.2 series Targa and is extremely rare! This one is in great shape and ready to go!"
Ultra rare indeed ;-)
"This amazing Targa 4 is the 991.2 series Targa and is extremely rare! This one is in great shape and ready to go!"
There is a Midnight Blue with Sand Beige (fairly rare color combo) at Danbury Porsche. I was very interested in it but there is too much of a spread in what they will give me for my 997.1 and what they want for the 997.2. If I didn't have my current car I would buy this one in a heartbeat.
https://danbury.porschedealer.com/in...tallic+1154905
If interested, give Van Kolton a call at 203-814-2245.
There is a shop around the corner (forget name but is in another one of my posts on this car) that can do a PPI. I also got a PM from a shop that will do the PPI - PM me if you want their info.
I am not at all affiliated with Danbury Porsche...would just like to live vicariously through someone that buys this car that I would really like to have ;-)
https://danbury.porschedealer.com/in...tallic+1154905
If interested, give Van Kolton a call at 203-814-2245.
There is a shop around the corner (forget name but is in another one of my posts on this car) that can do a PPI. I also got a PM from a shop that will do the PPI - PM me if you want their info.
I am not at all affiliated with Danbury Porsche...would just like to live vicariously through someone that buys this car that I would really like to have ;-)
#832
Hi Vern - you are right, I could sell the car myself; was hoping though to avoid the hassle. Lately have not had a lot of free time so that was the motivator for just trading it in. Plus, if i buy the car outright I pay sales tax on full purchase price which would be about $4K in taxes. I was hoping that the gap in what dealer would pay versus what I could sell on my own would be mitigated by tax savings but I suppose that was overly optimistic.
I live about 75 min from nearest Carmax - maybe they can give me an estimate over the phone.
It's all good - my only real 'requirements' for my dream 911 were Targa, dark blue exterior and tan interior. That's what I have now so probably should stop looking ;-)
thanks
#833
nice. Ever notice how 90% of the cars listed for sale around here are at high dealer retail? They don't sell, then the owner ends trading it in for 7K less than they were asking? If they would have asked 3000 over trade-in, it would've sold in a matter of days. I've never really understood why anyone would post a car for sale On a highly knowledgeable enthusiast forum and expect to get dealer retail, (outside of a collectible car of course)
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
#834
Don't forget that most states offer tax savings on your trade-in. So if a dealer trade value is high enough, it is often greater than the lower private party price that you suggest sellers come down to. Posting for sale in the community first also allows fellow enthusiasts an opportunity to avoid dealer price gouging and games.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
#835
Don't forget that most states offer tax savings on your trade-in. So if a dealer trade value is high enough, it is often greater than the lower private party price that you suggest sellers come down to. Posting for sale in the community first also allows fellow enthusiasts an opportunity to avoid dealer price gouging and games.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
In AZ (and some other states) there is no sales tax on private transactions, so you can save $$$$ on big money cars. Trading in won't get you anywhere near that tax advantage.
#836
Sales tax is a huge issue for us in Wisconsin. We pay based on the purchase price of the car when bought from a private party. My last Porsche cost me 5.1%, almost $3000, for the title. This policy really discourages us from swapping out cars. If I wasn't paying so much in sales taxes, I would be tempted to swap more often. But, it's hard to work your way through to enjoy a variety of nice cars when you get whacked for 5.1% every time.
I agree with the poster above; this is definitely a rule generated by the Automobile dealers' lobby. The only upside is that you pay tax on the stated sales price, so I am sure other people fudge, I, of course, wouldn't dream of it. The DMV will call if you tell them you paid $10Gs for a 2015 Turbo S.
I found an interesting loophole, unfortunately I found it a little too late. If I had traded the seller 50 ounces of gold coins for the car, I would have owed no sales tax. Trades are not taxed.
I agree with the poster above; this is definitely a rule generated by the Automobile dealers' lobby. The only upside is that you pay tax on the stated sales price, so I am sure other people fudge, I, of course, wouldn't dream of it. The DMV will call if you tell them you paid $10Gs for a 2015 Turbo S.
I found an interesting loophole, unfortunately I found it a little too late. If I had traded the seller 50 ounces of gold coins for the car, I would have owed no sales tax. Trades are not taxed.
#837
Originally Posted by Darkhorse
Sales tax is a huge issue for us in Wisconsin. We pay based on the purchase price of the car when bought from a private party. My last Porsche cost me 5.1%, almost $3000, for the title. This policy really discourages us from swapping out cars. If I wasn't paying so much in sales taxes, I would be tempted to swap more often. But, it's hard to work your way through to enjoy a variety of nice cars when you get whacked for 5.1% every time.
I agree with the poster above; this is definitely a rule generated by the Automobile dealers' lobby. The only upside is that you pay tax on the stated sales price, so I am sure other people fudge, I, of course, wouldn't dream of it. The DMV will call if you tell them you paid $10Gs for a 2015 Turbo S.
I found an interesting loophole, unfortunately I found it a little too late. If I had traded the seller 50 ounces of gold coins for the car, I would have owed no sales tax. Trades are not taxed.
I agree with the poster above; this is definitely a rule generated by the Automobile dealers' lobby. The only upside is that you pay tax on the stated sales price, so I am sure other people fudge, I, of course, wouldn't dream of it. The DMV will call if you tell them you paid $10Gs for a 2015 Turbo S.
I found an interesting loophole, unfortunately I found it a little too late. If I had traded the seller 50 ounces of gold coins for the car, I would have owed no sales tax. Trades are not taxed.
#838
Yeah, you can see why buyers of big ticket Ferraris and Lambos and Rolls Royces might want to register their cars in Montana. Such a racket.
#839
Originally Posted by Darkhorse
Sales tax is a huge issue for us in Wisconsin. We pay based on the purchase price of the car when bought from a private party. My last Porsche cost me 5.1%, almost $3000, for the title. This policy really discourages us from swapping out cars. If I wasn't paying so much in sales taxes, I would be tempted to swap more often. But, it's hard to work your way through to enjoy a variety of nice cars when you get whacked for 5.1% every time.
#840
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This looks like a good car although not idea if manual or tiptronic.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7348/overview/
This one is pretty nice as well.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6979/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7348/overview/
This one is pretty nice as well.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...6979/overview/