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Old 02-20-2020, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LISsailor
Hi guys, I am open to price suggestions. I am looking to transact on the car at a fair price. Let me know how far off I am. Thanks!
Your car looks very nice, considering the mileage and options it is priced well. It may take a bit of time to find a buyer.
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Mine is available:

https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1182872

Old 02-20-2020, 11:34 PM
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It looks great, very close to what I'm looking for but I don't want black. And. They. Are. All. Black... Were 90% of the 997.2s black, or is it that everyone with another color holds on to theirs? To be fair, there's the occasional white, the other color I don't want.
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Old 02-21-2020, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hexagone
I'm also contemplating selling my other car - I'd like to downsize to one of the two...

2009 C2 white/gray 6MT - 45K miles, perfect shape. A lot of bugs/flies in this photo, otherwise zero rock chips and perfect exterior:

If it was silver, you would have a deal... Beautiful cars, I’m sure you’ll find a buyer soon.
Old 02-21-2020, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick3000
Your car looks very nice, considering the mileage and options it is priced well. It may take a bit of time to find a buyer.
Thank you. Yes the car has been babied. I think it's a $62-65k car all day long. The price reflects a small discount. If someone is looking for a "5" handle on the price, they will need to consider cars with narrow body, PDK, Cabriolet, many owners, or accidents. This car has none of those. I have the original black shifter. and the lip can simply be taken off. It seemed to me that these mods are mostly OEM+ and likely appreciated around here. Everyone does the Fister and there are constantly threads on improved steering wheels. So I have left them. I added interior pics to the listing and am comfortable stating this might be one of the cleanest in the market. Again, I would prefer not to go to Cars.com or Autotrader so that we can keep it "in the family" but I understand getting the car sold is not anyone else's prerogative. In the end it's reluctantly for sale but we are in contract on a ski house which will bring joy to my entire family. The car is really just for me but I digress.

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Old 02-21-2020, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by hexagone
I'm also contemplating selling my other car - I'd like to downsize to one of the two...

2009 C2 white/gray 6MT - 45K miles, perfect shape. A lot of bugs/flies in this photo, otherwise zero rock chips and perfect exterior:

I am interested. I'll send you a PM with my contact info.
Old 02-21-2020, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hexagone
I'm also contemplating selling my other car - I'd like to downsize to one of the two...

2009 C2 white/gray 6MT - 45K miles, perfect shape. A lot of bugs/flies in this photo, otherwise zero rock chips and perfect exterior:

That Fidelity Warranty really makes a big difference in terms of value!
Old 02-21-2020, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Last week, seemed like the cheapest 997.2 manual coupes with less than 50k miles were $58k (wrecked) and $59k (cannot recall if wrecked or not). The rest were in the $60k + range. 21k miles is super low and the interior/cosmetic mods don't really bother me as they are not mechanical in nature.
Wow, I've been away from looking at values or browsing the forum for 3-4 months now but if what you say is true (and I do believe you since I know you watch values like a hawk), values have gone up sharply in that time. Makes me happy I found such a great deal on mine and bought when I did last year. Used to be a good clean .2 C2S manual could be found for mid-low $50k and $60k-$65k was high end specialty dealer pricing. Just more evidence that the 997 may be past the bottom of the depreciation curve and is starting to appreciate. I've been really happy with mine. Wish I had more time to modify it but love that I don't NEED to in order to enjoy it.
Old 02-21-2020, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LISsailor
Thank you. Yes the car has been babied. I think it's a $62-65k car all day long. The price reflects a small discount. If someone is looking for a "5" handle on the price, they will need to consider cars with narrow body, PDK, Cabriolet, many owners, or accidents. This car has none of those. I have the original black shifter. and the lip can simply be taken off. It seemed to me that these mods are mostly OEM+ and likely appreciated around here. Everyone does the Fister and there are constantly threads on improved steering wheels. So I have left them. I added interior pics to the listing and am comfortable stating this might be one of the cleanest in the market. Again, I would prefer not to go to Cars.com or Autotrader so that we can keep it "in the family" but I understand getting the car sold is not anyone else's prerogative. In the end it's reluctantly for sale but we are in contract on a ski house which will bring joy to my entire family. The car is really just for me but I digress.
The price looks good to me.
All mods aren't equal so the "mods = discount" mindset doesn't always hold. Maybe on something like a classic car or something really high end. Folks generally don't want mods when buying, say, a 993 Turbo or 991.2 GT3 RS.

The 997.2 is a 10 year old car. It's not new enough to just sit in the garage all the time to avoid mileage depreciation and it's not old enough to be valuable enough to be preserved in a museum. Small mods that improve the driving experience are kinda inevitable.
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Old 02-21-2020, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hindsight2010
Wow, I've been away from looking at values or browsing the forum for 3-4 months now but if what you say is true (and I do believe you since I know you watch values like a hawk), values have gone up sharply in that time. Makes me happy I found such a great deal on mine and bought when I did last year. Used to be a good clean .2 C2S manual could be found for mid-low $50k and $60k-$65k was high end specialty dealer pricing. Just more evidence that the 997 may be past the bottom of the depreciation curve and is starting to appreciate. I've been really happy with mine. Wish I had more time to modify it but love that I don't NEED to in order to enjoy it.
Just to be clear, I was talking only about S and 4S in manual pricing. It does appear that we are seeing fairly significant appreciation on low mileage, 997.2 S/4S/GTS manual coupes. I would say that any of these with 25k miles or less will really hold strong value and become more and more desirable.
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Old 02-21-2020, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Just to be clear, I was talking only about S and 4S in manual pricing. It does appear that we are seeing fairly significant appreciation on low mileage, 997.2 S/4S/GTS manual coupes. I would say that any of these with 25k miles or less will really hold strong value and become more and more desirable.
Yup that is what I understood. Since reading your post, I went and spend 15 minutes doing my own searching and found exactly what you just mentioned to be true as well: 25k or less mileage examples are commanding a crazy high premium. In addition to the prices generally going higher for these cars, the mileage modifier has skyrocketed - that's the biggest change. Used to be that lower mileage cars would command a premium but now the premium seems to have increased 50-100% over what it was (mileage based value modifier).
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Old 02-21-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug H
Just to be clear, I was talking only about S and 4S in manual pricing. It does appear that we are seeing fairly significant appreciation on low mileage, 997.2 S/4S/GTS manual coupes. I would say that any of these with 25k miles or less will really hold strong value and become more and more desirable.
Originally Posted by Hindsight2010
Yup that is what I understood. Since reading your post, I went and spend 15 minutes doing my own searching and found exactly what you just mentioned to be true as well: 25k or less mileage examples are commanding a crazy high premium. In addition to the prices generally going higher for these cars, the mileage modifier has skyrocketed - that's the biggest change. Used to be that lower mileage cars would command a premium but now the premium seems to have increased 50-100% over what it was (mileage based value modifier).
PDK cars aren't holding value quite as well, it seems.
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Old 02-21-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe Froman
PDK cars aren't holding value quite as well, it seems.
In the US, PDK and Cabriolets never really have. I've even seen C4S prices be generally lower than C2S prices (again, in the US).

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Old 02-21-2020, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TerrestrialFlyte

I was in Austin few days ago and wanted to see this car. Sale pending. Had been on market for what seemed long time and of course gone by the time I was ready to take a look. These dealers are bad about keeping cars listed way after they sell. That $72K manual GTS from Porsche San Antonio is still listed. I guess they just enjoy answering phones and telling everyone the same thing or hoping to sell them something else which is unlikely

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