vhorister

I like the unusual color.
maybe the cocoa brown with supple leather option will grow on me.
Im in the negotiating process with this car.
Yes the car barely move with this current mileage.
Service records up to date though.

CMLDC

Have you done a PPI? I'd want as much information (service history?, reasons for low mileage?) as possible for a car that was driven this little.

dawgcatching

Agreed! PPI with borescope is a must (Porsche specialist, which might be difficult in OKC).

You don't want an engine rebuild in 10,000 miles to the tune of $26k plus a year out of service

vhorister

Based on Carfax service is up to date with same Dealer.
Conversation with sales manager who knows this history from purchase and change of ownership stated that prior owners have multiple Porsches.


I found Dumont's in OKC who will do complete PPI.
Will keep you guys posted...

JAAM

I passed on a similar cab which was midnight blue with sport seats and PCCBs. Only hesitation i had was the number of owners due to driving habits which could lead to bore scoring. I’m not in any way an expert but from what I have gathered from reading several posts is that it takes about 6 miles to get the coolant and oil temp to reach 180 degrees, which is ideal before you let loose on a flat 6. So who knows how each owner drove her. A thorough PPI with bore scope should tell the story. Good luck mate.

vhorister

Thanks! will see what the bore scope revelation...

Dr.H

2012 Manual GTS

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...904964157.html

CMLDC

I'm shopping around for a 997.1 too. I've heard some suggestions that bore scoring is much more likely in cold climate/low mileage 997s. Any thoughts on this?

Rogueman1

Damn good looking car in a nice spec.

EG997C2

That's actually a decent deal on a GTS.

dawgcatching

Cold Climate? It is definitely a possibility, as stress happens on the engine when it is cold, and a car that is started at 20 degrees may see more wear than a car started when the ambient temp is 75 degrees.

I don't know why a low mile car would be more susceptible to bore scoring than a higher mile car though. By that logic, a car with delivery miles which has been sitting for 10+ years would be the most likely bore scoring candidate, which makes no sense. The car sitting may have other problems such as dried seals, but bore scoring can only come from the engine running. With that said, a car that is driven 200 miles a week, but only once per week on a long weekend drive, will likely be a lot better off than a car driven 50 miles a week, split into 20 separate trips. Some of the tightest 997s I have seen have been higher mile, long trip weekend drive cars, and that includes bore score images shared here Is this what you were referring to: the assumption that a higher mile may have seen a lot of highway miles and long drives, and therefore seen less engine wear than a lower mile car with a ton of trips to the grocery store? From what I have heard, that may very well be true. The trouble comes when one doesn't know how the car was operated, although the DME should give you a clue, as it notes the number of starts and average mph over the car's lifespan.

Ultimately, a borescope is really the only way to get a feel, but even that is not foolproof. For whatever reason, many engines show initial signs of scoring but a significant portion don't get worse over time.

dawgcatching

Agreed. Someone should snap it up if it is legit! I bet the dealer offered him $67-68k and he is just trying to make a few bucks.

CMLDC

I appreciate the thorough reply, and that makes sense. I think some of the thinking is that if a car got to 30-40k miles without bore scoring, it's less likely to develop later. Maybe that's not true in practice, though. I know I've seen that thought process in the great IMS debate, that if you have a relatively high mileage 996 or early 997 and it hasn't seen IMS issue in 50k miles, you're much more likely in the clear. As you said, though, a scope is the only way to be sure, and then I guess to drive it yourself in a way that reduces likelihood of scoring.

raidersfan

I might be able to add a bit of context here. I recently bought a club coupe, 2006 that was local to me. The car has a fair amount of miles: almost 60,000, but I had a bore scope done and it was as clean as any I have seen. After getting in touch with the original owner, who put almost 50,000 of the miles on the car, he said that the car was never driven on short trips. It went up to Canada, it went to Montana, or for big drives in the North Cascades. Yes, the mileage is on the higher side, but based on what he said, the time spent in the "cold" engine state was limited due to summer driving and due to minimal engine starts. This is just one piece of data, but unlike most people buying used cars, I was able to talk to the owner and find out how it was driven; my intuition tells me that his driving habits likely contributed to the lack of wear on the car.

Rogueman1

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Porsch...QAAOSwiXhc4zVR

This car seems really immaculate and well cared for. I like the brake upgrade.