user 729082021

Yep, I got the same email alert this morning. 90k is out of my comfort zone, however.

wportervt

Yeah, those miles certainly aren't for everyone, but I bet someone will be comfortable with it and jump all over this one at that price...

Chris M.

A .2 motor replacement in a .1 car? Haven't heard of that before. Anyone else?

There are cheaper .1S cars out there with fewer miles but if it in fact has a .2 motor that would add some value. Otherwise, you'd have to really want the PCCBs and GT2 bumper to pay a premium.

wportervt

This one might be worth checking out just to see if it really has a 997.2 motor in it and to explain to the seller the proper spelling of "brakes." Not sure I'd call $45k for a 2005 a good deal though. Do the Launch Editions really carry any sort of a premium? At that price I'd probably start looking at 997.2's...

pfbz

Too many questions on this one... Replacement engine, replacement bumper, replacement wheels, high miles, high price.

I do wonder about the 'Bonus - Porsche factory crated motor replacement at 30k miles. 997.2 motor' part though.

Launch editions came with 996 carry-over M96 engines. If it blew up at 30K miles, you would think it would have been replaced with a M97 engine, NOT a 997.2 DFI engine. Different ECU, wiring harness, exhaust, intake system, & more would make installing a DFI engine in a 997.1 a serious bit of work and expense. My guess is he is confusing the upgraded M97 engine with a DFI engine?

I also put zero premium on a launch edition 997... In fact I personally avoid them due to the M96 engine, which I suppose is moot in this case.

Abe Froman

Not a good deal. Suspension and body mods, replaced engine are concerns and it's still priced high ($45K) for a 997.1. Also has a lot of mistruths (doesn't have "every option"; that is impossible), PCCB weren't $18K IIRC, etc.

nwGTS

How would you even do that? Completely different ECU, DME, CAN etc. Christ, the wiring alone....

rickdogg82

He probably thinks that an updated IMS bearing engine = .2

Abe Froman

Yep. That or he is related to the person who spent a fortune to install a central driver's
seat in a Carrera Cabriolet.

srcn

My local Porsche dealer has a pristine launch edition with 23k miles on it, listed for under $45k. Five people looked at it on saturday (including me), hasn't been sold yet.

I've decided to stick to my guns on focus on 997.2's..

pfbz

IMHO, Denver Craigslist seems to be the home of 'optimistically priced' 911's of all generations... Frequently mid and high mileage cars priced as if they were low mileage garage queens, tiptronics priced as if they were manuals, etc.

srcn

I'm considering making an offer on the launch edition car near me.

Though I'd love some opinions on the DME report:

Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 1 2406
Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 2 201
Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 3 13
Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 4 1
Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 5 1
Number of ignitions at speed > maximum speed, range 6 0
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 1 652.900 h
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 2 652.900 h
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 3 652.900 h
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 4 484..900 h
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 5 484.900 h
Operating hours counter reading at overspeed, range 6 0.000 h
Operating hours counter 653.400 h

Under 23k miles on the odometer.
Should I walk away?

rickdogg82

That car is fine, but driven hard recently. Test drive over-revs.

pfbz

That's a clean DME report... Barely hit the rev limiter, no money shifts.

Chris M.

I've never heard of it being done but it's probably possible with a ton of work. One would need some serious documentation from Porsche, the new engine serial number, etc before proceeding.