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Someone asking $80k for a similar car to that one is dreaming. Most .1 Turbos should be in the $60s, maybe low $70s for low miles or extra special options (PCCB/Adaptive Sport Seat combo, aero kit, etc.). A lot of sellers think the 6mt Turbo coupes are poised to take off like air-cooleds some day soon but that sure hasn't happened yet, so be careful not to pay "tomorrow's prices, today."
Do those sell? I have seen 10k-mile cars sell for $80k (and that are loaded) but I have also seen plenty of people list cars at "optimistic" prices, $10k above what they are really worth. The PCA classified are terrible: 90% of the cars are listed at dealer retail. I figure if they are listing it for a good 10-15% over what it is worth, I am not interested in offering $4-5k above trade-in value (about what it would be worth private party).
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For reference regarding 997.2TT pricing. I recently sold my 2010 Turbo Coupe, PDK, SC+, PTV, PCCB for $83k ($163k MSRP). It was near mint with 37K miles and four months left on the CPO. I advertised it on Rennlist and 6SpeedOnline with an asking price of $87.5K. I lowered it each week about $1,5k until I found it a buyer. I wasn't in a rush to sell, but I also didn't want to drag it out for months. I know it was just one car in the marketplace, but it seems to represent the current market. It was my first non air cooled Porsche and my first Turbo. I really enjoyed it, however it was more car than I really needed. I just bought an '08 Carrera 2S and will enjoy that for awhile. I think the 997 line, both .1 and .2 are really fantastic cars!
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Last summer $70K would definitely buy you a decent 997.1 Turbo manual coupe... Under 40K miles, no significant cosmetic defects. I looked at several nice cars and passed on the nicest primarily because I wasn't in love with the idea of getting the identical color combo to my current Arctic Silver over Black 996 Turbo.
Right now, nice $70K .1 Turbo Coupes in manual aren't so easy to find, but that is my price expectation as well...
At over $75K, I'd likely just go to a turbo (not Turbo) 2017 991.2 base and tweak the tuning and turbos to about 500 HP on a much newer, more modern car. Albeit not a Mezger....
Right now, nice $70K .1 Turbo Coupes in manual aren't so easy to find, but that is my price expectation as well...
At over $75K, I'd likely just go to a turbo (not Turbo) 2017 991.2 base and tweak the tuning and turbos to about 500 HP on a much newer, more modern car. Albeit not a Mezger....
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Someone asking $80k for a similar car to that one is dreaming. Most .1 Turbos should be in the $60s, maybe low $70s for low miles or extra special options (PCCB/Adaptive Sport Seat combo, aero kit, etc.). A lot of sellers think the 6mt Turbo coupes are poised to take off like air-cooleds some day soon but that sure hasn't happened yet, so be careful not to pay "tomorrow's prices, today."
I found an awesome 2008 997.1 with PCCB's, Sport Chrono, 6MT, Low 20's for miles, sport seats, etc. But the dealer wants 86K ish
Too bad...I love the car! (except late 07 build date, so no update coolant line sealant).
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Do those sell? I have seen 10k-mile cars sell for $80k (and that are loaded) but I have also seen plenty of people list cars at "optimistic" prices, $10k above what they are really worth. The PCA classified are terrible: 90% of the cars are listed at dealer retail. I figure if they are listing it for a good 10-15% over what it is worth, I am not interested in offering $4-5k above trade-in value (about what it would be worth private party).
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Keep an eye on it. That car shouldn't sell for that price. Should be closer to $75-80k. If you like it, send them an offer for what you are comfortable paying and when it isnt selling for a month they might give you a call. Wouldnt let the coolant lines stop you when the failure can happen on any car. Just budget in $5k or so to do coolant pipes and cam pinning if you decide to go all out like I would with preventative maintenance when the engine is dropped.
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For reference regarding 997.2TT pricing. I recently sold my 2010 Turbo Coupe, PDK, SC+, PTV, PCCB for $83k ($163k MSRP). It was near mint with 37K miles and four months left on the CPO. I advertised it on Rennlist and 6SpeedOnline with an asking price of $87.5K. I lowered it each week about $1,5k until I found it a buyer. I wasn't in a rush to sell, but I also didn't want to drag it out for months. I know it was just one car in the marketplace, but it seems to represent the current market. It was my first non air cooled Porsche and my first Turbo. I really enjoyed it, however it was more car than I really needed. I just bought an '08 Carrera 2S and will enjoy that for awhile. I think the 997 line, both .1 and .2 are really fantastic cars!
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Last summer $70K would definitely buy you a decent 997.1 Turbo manual coupe... Under 40K miles, no significant cosmetic defects. I looked at several nice cars and passed on the nicest primarily because I wasn't in love with the idea of getting the identical color combo to my current Arctic Silver over Black 996 Turbo.
Right now, nice $70K .1 Turbo Coupes in manual aren't so easy to find, but that is my price expectation as well...
At over $75K, I'd likely just go to a turbo (not Turbo) 2017 991.2 base and tweak the tuning and turbos to about 500 HP on a much newer, more modern car. Albeit not a Mezger....
Right now, nice $70K .1 Turbo Coupes in manual aren't so easy to find, but that is my price expectation as well...
At over $75K, I'd likely just go to a turbo (not Turbo) 2017 991.2 base and tweak the tuning and turbos to about 500 HP on a much newer, more modern car. Albeit not a Mezger....
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A few companies have just cracked the 991.2 ecu's.... Fabspeed and GIAC for example. Both require sending in the ECU. Hopefully Cobb or others will have a OBDII port loaded tune soon.
The key engine difference between the base, S, and GTS are the specific turbos and the tune. You can buy the GTS turbo's (powerkit) for around $7K, and the Fabspeed tune is about $2K, so for less than $10K, you should be able to take a stock base 991.2 3.0 turbo from a factory 370 HP to ~ 525 HP with nothing more than bolt on turbos and a tune.
Early days though... Things will develop and refine over the coming months.
The key engine difference between the base, S, and GTS are the specific turbos and the tune. You can buy the GTS turbo's (powerkit) for around $7K, and the Fabspeed tune is about $2K, so for less than $10K, you should be able to take a stock base 991.2 3.0 turbo from a factory 370 HP to ~ 525 HP with nothing more than bolt on turbos and a tune.
Early days though... Things will develop and refine over the coming months.
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Couple decent looking cars
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love atlas gray
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253385550480
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302596319296
love atlas gray
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253385550480
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Couple decent looking cars
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302596319296
love atlas gray
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253385550480
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F302596319296
love atlas gray
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253385550480
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Steve
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all the information I've gained by watching this site. Just purchased this today; local car with all records - $57.7. Is my dream car!
http://fblod.com/showroom/inventory/...b2a96bs754852/
Steve
Thanks for all the information I've gained by watching this site. Just purchased this today; local car with all records - $57.7. Is my dream car!
http://fblod.com/showroom/inventory/...b2a96bs754852/
Steve