Trading in my 997s for a Nissan GTR.
09-11-2008, 02:01 AM
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Eric, there are some sick titanium exhausts out there (Mine's for one) that will definitely improve the sound. Please provide updates (maybe in the OT section?) for those of us curious about the GT-R.
09-11-2008, 02:30 AM
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I drove one a couple weeks ago and I was impressed. The acceleration was staggering. I couldn't believe it. Brakes were good. Cabin felt a bit confining given the high beltline. At $80k it's a bargain.
For me, however, I'd take a 911 C2 any day. Steering feedback and brakes are better. Acceleration isn't as brutal but with our pathetic speed limits it isn't much of an issue.
I came away highly impressed.
09-11-2008, 08:37 AM
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OK gents...in the words of Ari, let;s all just "hug it out, bitches." In the first place, NO ONE was making fun of asian people...we were tossing barbs at asian cars in general....there is a huge difference. I think we're OK doing that, as first and foremost this is a porsche board. I for one joined this forum a) to learn more about porsches, b) to meet other people that have these cars, c) to have a place to ask mechanical / cosmetic questions, etc. I did not join it to hear about other cars, why people are switching, etc., and that got me a tad annoyed I guess. In the future, I will simply ignore any post that starts with "Guess what...
Second, it was not until Akim went postal and crossed the line that I stupidly responded the way that I did to him with the OC comment. It was a blatant generalization and for that I apologize. That said, his language, despite his f/u post, was way out of line given the context of the thread.
Have a good day. BTW, in all seriousness, OP, enjoy the car. You work hard for your money, and should be able to spend it any way that you want.
Cole
Second, it was not until Akim went postal and crossed the line that I stupidly responded the way that I did to him with the OC comment. It was a blatant generalization and for that I apologize. That said, his language, despite his f/u post, was way out of line given the context of the thread.
Have a good day. BTW, in all seriousness, OP, enjoy the car. You work hard for your money, and should be able to spend it any way that you want.
Cole
09-11-2008, 10:12 AM
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I'm not siding either way, but a girl here at work saw what I was looking at and she said (on her own accord) it looked like a cross between a corvette and an altima. I don't know that I agree, but it was still a very interesting observation for me coming from a woman he doesn't know cars.
09-11-2008, 10:18 AM
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Congrats. I'm waiting for prices to settle and for Nissan to (hopefully) offer a traditional manual. I loved my 997S but frankly, I enjoy driving my Evo X more (And it's faster to boot). I can't wait to hear your driving impressions after owning it for a while.
09-11-2008, 12:12 PM
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Burning Brakes
Thanks! First off I will refrain from responding to several on here who unfortunately give Porsche owners a very bad name. Truly pathetic.
To the others, well I have had the car for 24 hours give or take and about 100 miles. First impressions?
1. My wife said it perfectly tonight, "This thing is a beast." It definitely is. It is a very visceral ride, much like the Porsche. Extremely mechanical, very focused. The car just wants to go! I have only taken it to 3500-4000rpm with very little boost at all. The engine seems to be very flexible and willing to cruise at 1100 rpm in 6th gear. In automatic mode the car is in 6th gear by 35mph! Very weird!
2. It is big! The Porsche was extremely intimate. I loved that. The Nissan, although very cozy on the inside, is certainly bigger on the outside. I will definitely have to get used to that.
3. The seats are very good, however, I still give the nod to the Porsche in this department. I had the adaptive sport seats in the 911. I haven't found the perfect seating position yet. I do like the suede inserts in the GT-R. Both cars have great dashboards with large center mounted tachs which I love.
4. The transmission is a lot of fun. I thought I would really miss a clutch pedal. I do, yes, but this transmission is awesome! Make no mistake, it is definitely deliberate! And noisy! But kind of cool in a mechanical way. Fortunately, I still have my 6spd 335i for my manual cravings.
5. The build quality seems to be awesome so far! Panel fit is great! Paint seems to be high quality, although it pales in comparison to the GT Silver on the 911. I guess that isn't totally a fair comparison. Interior quality is spectacular. It is very businesslike. It will be interesting to see how the new 911 infotainment stacks up to the Nissan, because it better be good. The nav, bluetooth, xm, full ipod integration is awesome in the GT-R. The porsche was so far behind in this category.
6. The ride is stiff, even in comfort mode. But not oppressive. It feels very good on the highway. The long wheelbase seems to help some in the ride department.
7. How does it sound? Well I was little worried that it would sound like a Pathfinder, or an Altima, or a Frontier, or well, any other Nissan with a V6. A little truck like I guess. Fortunately, the GT-R seems to sound a little better. I of course, haven't wrung it out yet. So I will withhold judgement. I hold a very large place in my heart for the sound of the 911 from 5000-7200rpm. I don't think anything will top that.
8. I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
Well that's all I can ramble about right now. I miss the Porsche greatly. I know I will own another someday. But for me, it was a somewhat rare opportunity to own a pretty cool car. After the first day, I am pretty pleased. I absolutely can't wait to take it to VIR! This thing will see plenty of track time!
Take care. Pictures to come shortly.
Eric
'09 GT-R
'07 335i
To the others, well I have had the car for 24 hours give or take and about 100 miles. First impressions?
1. My wife said it perfectly tonight, "This thing is a beast." It definitely is. It is a very visceral ride, much like the Porsche. Extremely mechanical, very focused. The car just wants to go! I have only taken it to 3500-4000rpm with very little boost at all. The engine seems to be very flexible and willing to cruise at 1100 rpm in 6th gear. In automatic mode the car is in 6th gear by 35mph! Very weird!
2. It is big! The Porsche was extremely intimate. I loved that. The Nissan, although very cozy on the inside, is certainly bigger on the outside. I will definitely have to get used to that.
3. The seats are very good, however, I still give the nod to the Porsche in this department. I had the adaptive sport seats in the 911. I haven't found the perfect seating position yet. I do like the suede inserts in the GT-R. Both cars have great dashboards with large center mounted tachs which I love.
4. The transmission is a lot of fun. I thought I would really miss a clutch pedal. I do, yes, but this transmission is awesome! Make no mistake, it is definitely deliberate! And noisy! But kind of cool in a mechanical way. Fortunately, I still have my 6spd 335i for my manual cravings.
5. The build quality seems to be awesome so far! Panel fit is great! Paint seems to be high quality, although it pales in comparison to the GT Silver on the 911. I guess that isn't totally a fair comparison. Interior quality is spectacular. It is very businesslike. It will be interesting to see how the new 911 infotainment stacks up to the Nissan, because it better be good. The nav, bluetooth, xm, full ipod integration is awesome in the GT-R. The porsche was so far behind in this category.
6. The ride is stiff, even in comfort mode. But not oppressive. It feels very good on the highway. The long wheelbase seems to help some in the ride department.
7. How does it sound? Well I was little worried that it would sound like a Pathfinder, or an Altima, or a Frontier, or well, any other Nissan with a V6. A little truck like I guess. Fortunately, the GT-R seems to sound a little better. I of course, haven't wrung it out yet. So I will withhold judgement. I hold a very large place in my heart for the sound of the 911 from 5000-7200rpm. I don't think anything will top that.
8. I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
Well that's all I can ramble about right now. I miss the Porsche greatly. I know I will own another someday. But for me, it was a somewhat rare opportunity to own a pretty cool car. After the first day, I am pretty pleased. I absolutely can't wait to take it to VIR! This thing will see plenty of track time!
Take care. Pictures to come shortly.
Eric
'09 GT-R
'07 335i
The GT-R is not my cup of tea but it is an amazing sports car no matter what the price and an astonishing deal at anywhere near MSRP.
I hope you have many happy, safe, fun miles and I welcome your continued posts with your impressions of the car.
I love my Porsche... and wouldn't trade it for just about anything else... but I'm a car enthusiast first and foremost.
09-11-2008, 12:35 PM
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I respectfully disagree, likemystoppie. Words, although perhaps not intended as such, can be abusive and hurtful. Would it be great to just look beyond it, or perhaps not even see it in the first place? Of course. I don't post often, but I felt some of the comments on this thread warranted an appropriate reply. If, for example, a member posted on this board n-this or n-that, I don't think there would be much tolerance for it. So by that same logic, it shouldn't be ok to diss on asians or any other ethnic group. Just because we're all adults and grown up, doesn't mean we get a pass to behave poorly in society. In addition, no one is claiming victimization, so there is no 'race' card. Just a simple point of life - try not to be or act like a douchebag.
And btw, I do like your stoppie! nice!
And btw, I do like your stoppie! nice!
Prsdoc- now THAT was a great way to 'respectfully' disagree! I def. could take some notes on how to 'disarm' someone when making a point!
And thanks.....the stoppie was during my more -brave days...... *sigh*
haha
See? We're all good here!!
Ps> when I drove the GT-R, I experienced all sorts of -techno-wizardry sounds- going on. Eric did you hear the same??
I must admit. I LOVE IT. Reminds me (oddly enough) of my Honda RC51. I loved hearing her Cam Gears Whine when I was twisting the throttle. I feel like I'm driving a 'real machine'!
Like Chris said, I'm sure there's some kick *** exhuast systems out there. Really make her sound scary!!
pps. I'm jealous. ya bastid!!
09-11-2008, 12:46 PM
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j/k, fyi I am also an Evo owner...
09-11-2008, 01:32 PM
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How can it be 'way too angular'? Way too angular for your tastes maybe. That's design...it's subjective. It would be like saying the Guggenheim in Bilbao is 'too curvy' or that the Eiffel tower is 'too pointy'.
If you don't like the look of it that's fine. I do. Some others appear to as well.
In the end it is compared to Porsche because Porsche is the ultimate in many people's minds. You can bet Stuttgart will be thinking about the GT-R's performance when they do the next Turbo and that should make the new TT even more bonkers than it is.
The GT-R is groudbreaking and competition is a good thing.
[end rant]
09-11-2008, 02:19 PM
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I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
09-11-2008, 05:34 PM
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Thanks! First off I will refrain from responding to several on here who unfortunately give Porsche owners a very bad name. Truly pathetic.
To the others, well I have had the car for 24 hours give or take and about 100 miles. First impressions?
1. My wife said it perfectly tonight, "This thing is a beast." It definitely is. It is a very visceral ride, much like the Porsche. Extremely mechanical, very focused. The car just wants to go! I have only taken it to 3500-4000rpm with very little boost at all. The engine seems to be very flexible and willing to cruise at 1100 rpm in 6th gear. In automatic mode the car is in 6th gear by 35mph! Very weird!
2. It is big! The Porsche was extremely intimate. I loved that. The Nissan, although very cozy on the inside, is certainly bigger on the outside. I will definitely have to get used to that.
3. The seats are very good, however, I still give the nod to the Porsche in this department. I had the adaptive sport seats in the 911. I haven't found the perfect seating position yet. I do like the suede inserts in the GT-R. Both cars have great dashboards with large center mounted tachs which I love.
4. The transmission is a lot of fun. I thought I would really miss a clutch pedal. I do, yes, but this transmission is awesome! Make no mistake, it is definitely deliberate! And noisy! But kind of cool in a mechanical way. Fortunately, I still have my 6spd 335i for my manual cravings.
5. The build quality seems to be awesome so far! Panel fit is great! Paint seems to be high quality, although it pales in comparison to the GT Silver on the 911. I guess that isn't totally a fair comparison. Interior quality is spectacular. It is very businesslike. It will be interesting to see how the new 911 infotainment stacks up to the Nissan, because it better be good. The nav, bluetooth, xm, full ipod integration is awesome in the GT-R. The porsche was so far behind in this category.
6. The ride is stiff, even in comfort mode. But not oppressive. It feels very good on the highway. The long wheelbase seems to help some in the ride department.
7. How does it sound? Well I was little worried that it would sound like a Pathfinder, or an Altima, or a Frontier, or well, any other Nissan with a V6. A little truck like I guess. Fortunately, the GT-R seems to sound a little better. I of course, haven't wrung it out yet. So I will withhold judgement. I hold a very large place in my heart for the sound of the 911 from 5000-7200rpm. I don't think anything will top that.
8. I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
Well that's all I can ramble about right now. I miss the Porsche greatly. I know I will own another someday. But for me, it was a somewhat rare opportunity to own a pretty cool car. After the first day, I am pretty pleased. I absolutely can't wait to take it to VIR! This thing will see plenty of track time!
Take care. Pictures to come shortly.
Eric
'09 GT-R
'07 335i
To the others, well I have had the car for 24 hours give or take and about 100 miles. First impressions?
1. My wife said it perfectly tonight, "This thing is a beast." It definitely is. It is a very visceral ride, much like the Porsche. Extremely mechanical, very focused. The car just wants to go! I have only taken it to 3500-4000rpm with very little boost at all. The engine seems to be very flexible and willing to cruise at 1100 rpm in 6th gear. In automatic mode the car is in 6th gear by 35mph! Very weird!
2. It is big! The Porsche was extremely intimate. I loved that. The Nissan, although very cozy on the inside, is certainly bigger on the outside. I will definitely have to get used to that.
3. The seats are very good, however, I still give the nod to the Porsche in this department. I had the adaptive sport seats in the 911. I haven't found the perfect seating position yet. I do like the suede inserts in the GT-R. Both cars have great dashboards with large center mounted tachs which I love.
4. The transmission is a lot of fun. I thought I would really miss a clutch pedal. I do, yes, but this transmission is awesome! Make no mistake, it is definitely deliberate! And noisy! But kind of cool in a mechanical way. Fortunately, I still have my 6spd 335i for my manual cravings.
5. The build quality seems to be awesome so far! Panel fit is great! Paint seems to be high quality, although it pales in comparison to the GT Silver on the 911. I guess that isn't totally a fair comparison. Interior quality is spectacular. It is very businesslike. It will be interesting to see how the new 911 infotainment stacks up to the Nissan, because it better be good. The nav, bluetooth, xm, full ipod integration is awesome in the GT-R. The porsche was so far behind in this category.
6. The ride is stiff, even in comfort mode. But not oppressive. It feels very good on the highway. The long wheelbase seems to help some in the ride department.
7. How does it sound? Well I was little worried that it would sound like a Pathfinder, or an Altima, or a Frontier, or well, any other Nissan with a V6. A little truck like I guess. Fortunately, the GT-R seems to sound a little better. I of course, haven't wrung it out yet. So I will withhold judgement. I hold a very large place in my heart for the sound of the 911 from 5000-7200rpm. I don't think anything will top that.
8. I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
Well that's all I can ramble about right now. I miss the Porsche greatly. I know I will own another someday. But for me, it was a somewhat rare opportunity to own a pretty cool car. After the first day, I am pretty pleased. I absolutely can't wait to take it to VIR! This thing will see plenty of track time!
Take care. Pictures to come shortly.
Eric
'09 GT-R
'07 335i
09-12-2008, 01:59 AM
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Ben I agree it's not as beautiful as a 911 but the thing is a beast.
I drove one a couple weeks ago and I was impressed. The acceleration was staggering. I couldn't believe it. Brakes were good. Cabin felt a bit confining given the high beltline. At $80k it's a bargain.
For me, however, I'd take a 911 C2 any day. Steering feedback and brakes are better. Acceleration isn't as brutal but with our pathetic speed limits it isn't much of an issue.
I came away highly impressed.
I drove one a couple weeks ago and I was impressed. The acceleration was staggering. I couldn't believe it. Brakes were good. Cabin felt a bit confining given the high beltline. At $80k it's a bargain.
For me, however, I'd take a 911 C2 any day. Steering feedback and brakes are better. Acceleration isn't as brutal but with our pathetic speed limits it isn't much of an issue.
I came away highly impressed.
For that money I could get a real beast - a Z06 - a better bargain at $70k with great styling, and come out ahead with 10 grand leftover.
It's not always about performance numbers - at least it isn't for me. Like I said, I would be embarrassed, I'm serious, to be seen driving that gawdy poorly styled POS around, no matter how much hp it has.
It reminds me of the station wagon Chevy Chase drove in the Vacation movies:
