Trading in my 997s for a Nissan GTR.
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Now matter how much lipstick you put on it, it's still an ugly looking car at the end of the day.
Nothing flows in the design of the lines. It looks like it was designed by committee.
The front fenders look like they were designed by the Mazda team.
The front end by the Honda team.
The *** end by the Chevy team.
The ugly creases by the Cadillac team.
And final assembly by Nissan.
GTR - Gonna Tank Royally
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Now matter how much lipstick you put on it, it's still an ugly looking car at the end of the day.
Nothing flows in the design of the lines. It looks like it was designed by committee.
The front fenders look like they were designed by the Mazda team.
The front end by the Honda team.
The *** end by the Chevy team.
The ugly creases by the Cadillac team.
And final assembly by Nissan.
GTR - Gonna Tank Royally
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Good luck with it. Definitely interested in your track experience. I am not a big fan of lots of electronics or four wheel drive. Will be interested in hearing what you think.
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I think the fact that it's so polarizing will give it legs. It'll still depreciate, but then so do 911s.
I'd love to have a GT-R as a second car to either my Cayman or Audi (or both if I had the $$). It's an amazing performer, appears to respond well to mods, and (when the markups die) is priced well. It'll be on my radar for a few years to come...
I'd love to have a GT-R as a second car to either my Cayman or Audi (or both if I had the $$). It's an amazing performer, appears to respond well to mods, and (when the markups die) is priced well. It'll be on my radar for a few years to come...
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I see 2 aspects to owning a fine car, and at $100K, there are many available
1 is performance, the enjoyment of power on accelerating, holding the road on turns, etc, here the GTR works
the other aspect is the pride in owning a beautiful object, whether it is a picture, sculpture, watch or car. Here the GTR fails for me. After owning 911's for over a decade, I still take one last look in the garage before I go to sleep.still enjoy waxing the car, still enjoy the beauty of the lines. I do not feel this with the GTR
1 is performance, the enjoyment of power on accelerating, holding the road on turns, etc, here the GTR works
the other aspect is the pride in owning a beautiful object, whether it is a picture, sculpture, watch or car. Here the GTR fails for me. After owning 911's for over a decade, I still take one last look in the garage before I go to sleep.still enjoy waxing the car, still enjoy the beauty of the lines. I do not feel this with the GTR
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I see 2 aspects to owning a fine car, and at $100K, there are many available
1 is performance, the enjoyment of power on accelerating, holding the road on turns, etc, here the GTR works
the other aspect is the pride in owning a beautiful object, whether it is a picture, sculpture, watch or car. Here the GTR fails for me. After owning 911's for over a decade, I still take one last look in the garage before I go to sleep.still enjoy waxing the car, still enjoy the beauty of the lines. I do not feel this with the GTR
1 is performance, the enjoyment of power on accelerating, holding the road on turns, etc, here the GTR works
the other aspect is the pride in owning a beautiful object, whether it is a picture, sculpture, watch or car. Here the GTR fails for me. After owning 911's for over a decade, I still take one last look in the garage before I go to sleep.still enjoy waxing the car, still enjoy the beauty of the lines. I do not feel this with the GTR
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The GTR is an incredible machine no doubt. Although I dislike how it almost drives itself with all the assists and as far as I know you can't get a 6 speed? I wish car manufacturers who offer such an electronic car would offer it in a less electronic, cheaper form.
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Good luck with your GTR! I wish my upcoming 2009 911S had the performance, however the performance difference for me wasn't a big enough deal to choose it over the 911.
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To the O.P. - Enjoy your new ride....it will be an animal on the track. I saw one at Sebring last month absolutely smoke a 996 Turbo on the back straght.
On a side note, my father-in-law has owned many franchise dealerships over the past 30 years. A phrase I've heard him use many times when discussing car appeal was: "There is an *** for every seat". A simple piece of wisdom that can be applied to almost anything.
Regarding the other nonsense going on in this thread..... I don't think Cole deserved Akim's pathetic, childish response......he was completely out of line and clearly overreacted. I would suggest anger management therapy for internet tough guys.....
On a side note, my father-in-law has owned many franchise dealerships over the past 30 years. A phrase I've heard him use many times when discussing car appeal was: "There is an *** for every seat". A simple piece of wisdom that can be applied to almost anything.
Regarding the other nonsense going on in this thread..... I don't think Cole deserved Akim's pathetic, childish response......he was completely out of line and clearly overreacted. I would suggest anger management therapy for internet tough guys.....
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sorry to go OT, but i originally read this post because of so many comparisons regarding the gt-r to the porsche. why? because nissan used porsche as a benchmark. personally i dont like the looks of the new GT-R. and everyone has their own opinion, fine. but i think its pretty stupid when people go to the ethnically biased remarks regarding the car. i think it annoys me the most because of the sheer stupidity. ahh.. go back to your rice rocket blah blah blah, porsche is the only car out there... personally, ive never been a fan of the fast n furious type cars. i do like racing, and i do love the sport of driving. so what? why else would i be on a porsche board? its just stupid that SOME people are so narrow minded. Tyler McQuarrie can race in the hankook/JIC 911 while at the same time racing in the Cwest/ BC S2000. Does it matter that one car is a porsche and one car is a japmobile? Why was it sooo horrible when Cosworth based in GB, with a history in F1 chose to supply performance product to the Suburu EJ25 and Nissan VQ35 motors? why does it become racial and ethnical? i didnt start this, i just cant stand to see this bs. i would have never joined this board if i knew it was a socially segregated forum vs. automotive forum... it's people like YOU that asked me when I was out playing TPC Sawgrass last year if I had ninja stars and nunchucks in my bag. and dont worry about me living over there, I happen to like SoCal. As far as anywhere that I've traveled, I've never experienced such racial diversity and acceptance as I have here. Perhaps that's why some saw fit to move elsewhere who knows. back to an old threads, i think it's been asked "why are porsche owners targeted?" well, i think you guys just answered the question... a few spoiled apples......
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Enjoy the GTR and it's great you're going after what you want.
Regarding the other posters who made comments such as this:
why didn't you speak out against Cole's ignorant comments? Does silence imply consent? It better not.
Regarding the other posters who made comments such as this:
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Dude, can we just lay down the 'race' card? Can we? Was it a non-pc comment? Sure. Can we all grow up and be adults and realize that 'words' cannot hurt us?
That would be swell. Seriously, if I had a ten dollar bill every time I heard the word "Whitey"; I'd have brand new Duc 1098S in my garage- paid in full.
And stop generalizing, would ya, for pete's sakes? lol
That would be swell. Seriously, if I had a ten dollar bill every time I heard the word "Whitey"; I'd have brand new Duc 1098S in my garage- paid in full.
And stop generalizing, would ya, for pete's sakes? lol
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The GTR has no clutch pedal option and IMO it's way too angular. Those two things keep me from being interested, despite it's amazing performance. Hard to believe the GTR can hang with a 997 GT2 though.
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Dude, can we just lay down the 'race' card? Can we? Was it a non-pc comment? Sure. Can we all grow up and be adults and realize that 'words' cannot hurt us?
And btw, I do like your stoppie! nice!
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Thanks! First off I will refrain from responding to several on here who unfortunately give Porsche owners a very bad name. Truly pathetic.
To the others, well I have had the car for 24 hours give or take and about 100 miles. First impressions?
1. My wife said it perfectly tonight, "This thing is a beast." It definitely is. It is a very visceral ride, much like the Porsche. Extremely mechanical, very focused. The car just wants to go! I have only taken it to 3500-4000rpm with very little boost at all. The engine seems to be very flexible and willing to cruise at 1100 rpm in 6th gear. In automatic mode the car is in 6th gear by 35mph! Very weird!
2. It is big! The Porsche was extremely intimate. I loved that. The Nissan, although very cozy on the inside, is certainly bigger on the outside. I will definitely have to get used to that.
3. The seats are very good, however, I still give the nod to the Porsche in this department. I had the adaptive sport seats in the 911. I haven't found the perfect seating position yet. I do like the suede inserts in the GT-R. Both cars have great dashboards with large center mounted tachs which I love.
4. The transmission is a lot of fun. I thought I would really miss a clutch pedal. I do, yes, but this transmission is awesome! Make no mistake, it is definitely deliberate! And noisy! But kind of cool in a mechanical way. Fortunately, I still have my 6spd 335i for my manual cravings.
5. The build quality seems to be awesome so far! Panel fit is great! Paint seems to be high quality, although it pales in comparison to the GT Silver on the 911. I guess that isn't totally a fair comparison. Interior quality is spectacular. It is very businesslike. It will be interesting to see how the new 911 infotainment stacks up to the Nissan, because it better be good. The nav, bluetooth, xm, full ipod integration is awesome in the GT-R. The porsche was so far behind in this category.
6. The ride is stiff, even in comfort mode. But not oppressive. It feels very good on the highway. The long wheelbase seems to help some in the ride department.
7. How does it sound? Well I was little worried that it would sound like a Pathfinder, or an Altima, or a Frontier, or well, any other Nissan with a V6. A little truck like I guess. Fortunately, the GT-R seems to sound a little better. I of course, haven't wrung it out yet. So I will withhold judgement. I hold a very large place in my heart for the sound of the 911 from 5000-7200rpm. I don't think anything will top that.
8. I think in the first 24 hours, I have had more interest in this car from bystanders, people in other cars, animals, etc. than the three years of ownership in the Porsche. You can't hide in this car. It is so funny seeing people go out of their way to follow you in this car.
Well that's all I can ramble about right now. I miss the Porsche greatly. I know I will own another someday. But for me, it was a somewhat rare opportunity to own a pretty cool car. After the first day, I am pretty pleased. I absolutely can't wait to take it to VIR! This thing will see plenty of track time!
Take care. Pictures to come shortly.
Eric
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'07 335i
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Thanks for posting your first impressions.
Richmond used to be my old stomping grounds... September should be a nice time of year for some Fall driving out there. I do miss the Fan and Monument Ave.
Again, enjoy in good health!
Richmond used to be my old stomping grounds... September should be a nice time of year for some Fall driving out there. I do miss the Fan and Monument Ave.
Again, enjoy in good health!