Documenting My Flat 6 Innovations Build
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As for the FSI Carbon fiber airbox, unfortunately they are at the tail end of development and not available yet.
Now the challenge is acquiring material to keep up with the demand. The molds have parts in them right now, and will stay that way for a few weeks. It takes 3 molds to build one air box, not to mention all the ancillary pieces that have to be created with the MJF process like the MAF sensor housing and etc.
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@Scalp_em awesome to hear! It really is pretty insane how different it is and it is great to hear a comparison from someone who had the GT3 TB and IPD first. I didn’t have those things and was wondering how much difference I was getting from that, based on your feedback seems like it is mostly the new engine. Have you completed the tunes yet, did they do that down there? I have not, but am trying to get there before the end of the year.
I currently have 900 miles, break in oil change will happen this weekend. It continues to be awesome, drove to work today in freezing temps, rolled the window down on the way home just to hear the sound 😁. It just sounds insane up to 5k, I really can’t imagine how it will sound once I can really give it to it.
I was talking to Jud the other day and explained that I am expecting the power to flatten out after 5k, there is no way it pulls as hard from 5-7k, to my surprise he said it actually pulls harder! He also said the break in tune has the throttle detuned a bit. TBH I can’t imagine it pulling harder and won’t believe it until I experience it.
I currently have 900 miles, break in oil change will happen this weekend. It continues to be awesome, drove to work today in freezing temps, rolled the window down on the way home just to hear the sound 😁. It just sounds insane up to 5k, I really can’t imagine how it will sound once I can really give it to it.
I was talking to Jud the other day and explained that I am expecting the power to flatten out after 5k, there is no way it pulls as hard from 5-7k, to my surprise he said it actually pulls harder! He also said the break in tune has the throttle detuned a bit. TBH I can’t imagine it pulling harder and won’t believe it until I experience it.
Last edited by bgoetz; 12-05-2022 at 09:15 PM.
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I was talking to Jud the other day and explained that I am expecting the power to flatten out after 5k, there is no way it pulls as hard from 5-7k, to my surprise he said it actually pulls harder! He also said the break in tune has the throttle detuned a bit. TBH I can’t imagine it pulling harder and won’t believe it until I experience it.
As for the tuning I had it done in house at FSI while my car was there. I will not have access to the tunes until after the break in, but I have 4 options controlled by a hand held device, a tune for 91 octane fuel for when traveling in areas that only offer 91 for premium, 93 standard tune, 93 spirited/ track day tune, and then another tune for higher octane race fuel track tune. I could choose 4 of the 6 available and those where the 4 I chose. One could also choose a Valet mode tune ( I would never Valet this car, don’t trust Valet tune or not) or one that completely shuts the car down and makes it immobile from what I understand ( if one was storing it long term and wanted this as another form of security)
I look forward to your feedback out of the break in period
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I will absolutely provide feedback as soon as I am to full power!!
Good to know on the tune options. I think we will do mine next week, all will be done remotely with me logging and sending them logs. Do you know how you change from tune to tune? I do valet my car from time to time, but the tune wouldn’t do me any good if I needed to tuner.
Good to know on the tune options. I think we will do mine next week, all will be done remotely with me logging and sending them logs. Do you know how you change from tune to tune? I do valet my car from time to time, but the tune wouldn’t do me any good if I needed to tuner.
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I will absolutely provide feedback as soon as I am to full power!!
Good to know on the tune options. I think we will do mine next week, all will be done remotely with me logging and sending them logs. Do you know how you change from tune to tune? I do valet my car from time to time, but the tune wouldn’t do me any good if I needed to tuner.
Good to know on the tune options. I think we will do mine next week, all will be done remotely with me logging and sending them logs. Do you know how you change from tune to tune? I do valet my car from time to time, but the tune wouldn’t do me any good if I needed to tuner.
Last edited by Scalp_em; 12-06-2022 at 08:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by Scalp_em
It’s a handheld that plugs into OBD II port Small enough to fit in the glove box. Valet mode I guess would be good too if you were storing it at an external place not at your residence or a mode to put in if you are away on business and have a teenage son lol
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All great things to hear. You must have got one of the very last under the old program. I'm getting one of, if not the first, under the new exclusive program. Doing an R-series build. I think Jake has it all planned out, and due to lack of production of cranks, my build will be an R41. And I'll certainly be getting jakes "complete" system. (Subject to change on jakes discretion). basically the deal is to let Jake build what he wants, with whats available. Soooo excited. Of course a littler nervous because of the money... I just want a screamer. MY version of a GT3.
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I bet a 4.1 with his full system will sound absolutely insane! And the price, I think these builds are 100% worth the $. I bet that full system adds a good bit in terms of performance, had he had it out when I was going through the process it would have been hard to pass up.
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good to know. I actually have the handheld already. I guess tossing it in the glovebox isn’t the end of the world.
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I enjoyed reading your experience.
My 996.2 is currently at FSI getting a Track Performer 4.0.(Elective build, no bore scoring!)
I also added all the performance/reliability add-ons except for the few items I already had. (I already had IPD/GT3 TB, Soul headers, Soul sport cats, Fabspeed Maxflow mufflers, center radiator, aluminum pipe, UAOS)
The engine has been completed (I've been enjoying the pictures the Jud supplies) and should be going back into my 996 soon.
I've been stuck driving a minivan while my 996 has been at FSI so I expect the difference will be even more shocking!
My 996.2 is currently at FSI getting a Track Performer 4.0.(Elective build, no bore scoring!)
I also added all the performance/reliability add-ons except for the few items I already had. (I already had IPD/GT3 TB, Soul headers, Soul sport cats, Fabspeed Maxflow mufflers, center radiator, aluminum pipe, UAOS)
The engine has been completed (I've been enjoying the pictures the Jud supplies) and should be going back into my 996 soon.
I've been stuck driving a minivan while my 996 has been at FSI so I expect the difference will be even more shocking!
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Well first drive with full juice and all I can say is “Holy ****”!!” It is freaking bonkers how fast it is and the sound is on a whole different level. It isn’t even the same car. Just unreal, I am honestly at a loss for how to describe it. I swapped a 200hp K20 into a 115hp civic 15yrs ago and it is really that same level of night and day difference except it sounds a million times better.
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Well first drive with full juice and all I can say is “Holy ****”!!” It is freaking bonkers how fast it is and the sound is on a whole different level. It isn’t even the same car. Just unreal, I am honestly at a loss for how to describe it. I swapped a 200hp K20 into a 115hp civic 15yrs ago and it is really that same level of night and day difference except it sounds a million times better.
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Yeah I was messing around and rolled on the throttle in 2nd coming around a corner that I would always previously put it to the floor around and it started fighting for traction. I have never had it fight for traction like that. I know the #s I hear thrown around by Jake are 420 crank hp, but he emphasizes he doesn’t care about max power it is everything in between. That 420 # seems very reasonable after this drive.
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Scalp_em (12-12-2022)
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Yeah I was messing around and rolled on the throttle in 2nd coming around a corner that I would always previously put it to the floor around and it started fighting for traction. I have never had it fight for traction like that. I know the #s I hear thrown around by Jake are 420 crank hp, but he emphasizes he doesn’t care about max power it is everything in between. That 420 # seems very reasonable after this drive.
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
Well first drive with full juice and all I can say is “Holy ****”!!” It is freaking bonkers how fast it is and the sound is on a whole different level. It isn’t even the same car. Just unreal, I am honestly at a loss for how to describe it. I swapped a 200hp K20 into a 115hp civic 15yrs ago and it is really that same level of night and day difference except it sounds a million times better.