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Old 03-22-2022, 11:46 AM
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You do realize that you’re killing all of us that were in the Q3 2023 bucket with all of the tidbits you’ve dropped in this thread over the past couple days?
Sorry that I tagged the line before you guys could get your turn.
Old 03-26-2022, 10:41 PM
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Does anyone have a source for a Porsche 4.0 intake emblem? I swear I saw someone who had one on their FSI build and want one for my engine.
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Does anyone have a source for a Porsche 4.0 intake emblem? I swear I saw someone who had one on their FSI build and want one for my engine.
I had some of those made for the R-Series a while ago. That may be what you noticed.
Old 03-27-2022, 09:51 AM
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Does anyone have a source for a Porsche 4.0 intake emblem? I swear I saw someone who had one on their FSI build and want one for my engine.



That was @JustinCase , I sent him a pm not long ago because I wanted to get one as well for my FSI 4.0 Stage II that is due in October….he custom made that himself, which I don’t have the skills or time to do myself. If you can figure out how to get one made I’m good for 2 of them, one for my car an another as a backup👍🏼

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Old 03-27-2022, 01:02 PM
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That was @JustinCase , I sent him a pm not long ago because I wanted to get one as well for my FSI 4.0 Stage II that is due in October….he custom made that himself, which I don’t have the skills or time to do myself. If you can figure out how to get one made I’m good for 2 of them, one for my car an another as a backup👍🏼
Yeah that is exactly what I recall seeing. I wonder if we could talk @Flat6 Innovations into making more that is just for the 4.0 😁?
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Old 03-27-2022, 01:23 PM
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Yeah that is exactly what I recall seeing. I wonder if we could talk @Flat6 Innovations into making more that is just for the 4.0 😁?
We tried this very thing with a very nice, raised bubble top decal. Suppliers sucked so badly that they wouldn’t even send a sample.
They only want to produce hundreds of something, and our focus isn’t on volume.

I gave up trying to have any promotional items. Maybe the next guys will be better at marketing and promotions than I am. It’s the thing about business that I hate most. I believe the internals and life spent creating the engine trumps a decal. It speaks for its self when you hit the throttle and that’s all I give a damn about.
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Does anyone do this 4.0 upgrade purely as a huge preventative measure?

for example my car is a high mileage (110k) 997. I love the car. Certainly if I did the upgrade it would be much cheaper now than waiting for the engine to bore score and ruin a bunch of parts right?

Just curious if anyone has gone that route. Sorry if this is shifting the thread.
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Does anyone do this 4.0 upgrade purely as a huge preventative measure?

for example my car is a high mileage (110k) 997. I love the car. Certainly if I did the upgrade it would be much cheaper now than waiting for the engine to bore score and ruin a bunch of parts right?

Just curious if anyone has gone that route. Sorry if this is shifting the thread.
70% of my business over the past 3 years has been elective. In the past 12 months that soared to 90%.
When my engines are available again, they will ONLY be offered as elective builds. Dealing with failures complicates the processes and with the proposed new program being full retail, on- demand sales that must be avoided at all costs.

The elective demand will remain stronger than we can fulfill, even if the economy tanks.
FYI- Since bore scoring doesn’t impact any of the components we reuse and doesn’t complicate our processes, we do not disqualify engines with scored bores. Anything more than bore scoring will be disqualified.

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Originally Posted by misterdega
Does anyone do this 4.0 upgrade purely as a huge preventative measure?

for example my car is a high mileage (110k) 997. I love the car. Certainly if I did the upgrade it would be much cheaper now than waiting for the engine to bore score and ruin a bunch of parts right?

Just curious if anyone has gone that route. Sorry if this is shifting the thread.
I’m one of those guys—waiting in the wings for an elective build—I have a sound 3.8, but really want both the longevity, and that “It speaks for its self when you hit the throttle and that’s all I give a damn about.”

I went the same route with a build back in 2009 on the engine in my V-Rod, and it’s been 13 years of s*it eating grins every time I hit the throttle. Life’s too short to have toys that don’t do that
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Great to hear. Thank you both. Maybe it’s something I look into for the future 😎😎
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Elective builds are not dramatic. The owners can't drive their car right up till the day that the new engine will be swapped into it. That is the plan for FSI V2.0 at this point.
The reason why we can only do elective builds is because the new program will thrive from a circulation of high quality engine cores, so that means that even too many miles on an engine can disqualify it from the program, if it has not failed yet.
Engine production will be cut by 1/3, or maybe more as we build what we can get parts for, then go back to our aircooled days to make up the difference. I am trying hard not to drop quality in any way, but actually make it even better, and not have any schedules or timelines to deal with.
We have 14 months and 7 days to work out the details. Till then I have tagged the line and the focus is finishing every engine on the books in a very special way, while remaining on time, and on budget. We haven't gone up a dollar yet, and we've only missed two delivery dates since Covid started.. Both of those were due to camshafts, and I hate that even those two were late.
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Originally Posted by misterdega
Does anyone do this 4.0 upgrade purely as a huge preventative measure?

for example my car is a high mileage (110k) 997. I love the car. Certainly if I did the upgrade it would be much cheaper now than waiting for the engine to bore score and ruin a bunch of parts right?

Just curious if anyone has gone that route. Sorry if this is shifting the thread.
Yes, as I mentioned earlier, I just got my 997.1 C4 Cabriolet back from Jake and it was an elective 4.0 Track Performer II build. I too had 110k, had some work done when I bought the car 6 years earlier and was concerned about the next 100k miles. (....And it bugged me a little bit that I had to keep downshifting into second to go up hill at Palmer to keep up with the turbos and even the C2S's because I didn't have the torque. Don't think that will be a problem now but have to wait and see!) When FSI sent pictures of the tear down, it appeared as though there was light scoring of the cylinder walls so it may have been a good call for that reason. Plus, my wife won't let me drop $150k for a new one...even though she loves that flat light blue color!
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Old 05-03-2022, 09:54 PM
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Well the day has come…transport is coming tomorrow to take the 911 to FSI. It is bittersweet because I have been waiting so long to send it to FSI, but I will miss driving it and walking out to the garage and seeing it there. Bear with me if I’m insufferable over the next several months lol. I may avoid Rennlist so I don’t get major FOMO…..but not coming on Rennlist is a hard habit to break as well.
But it will be worth it for the 4.0L Stage II beast I will be getting.
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I can't wait to hear your impressions once you get it back. May the time pass fast.
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As I think either the first or second one out when Jake had to clip the line, I'm insanely jealous as I watch you go through the process, but also enjoying living vicariously through you!
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