When it rains, it pours - replacing the PDK
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Well yeah its funny to see how everyone recommends finding a good Indy instead of going to the dealership all the time, but when something big happens everyone is quick to suggest that i should have been going to the dealer. In hindsight, a lot of things could have been done differently.. It is what it is at this point, you live and learn. I have a lot going on ahead of me and i will apply the knowledge i gain here in the future. Most of you probably dont know my age, but i might be one of the youngest members on this board....
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To me, it doesn't make any sense to go to the dealership for any 997 engine failure if you're out of warranty and not an established dealership customer. Yes, they may kick in a few thousand but they can't give you anything but the same thing that just failed for you, whereas going the Raby / LN route, you end up with something much better than what you started with - increased displacement, more durable piston and cylinder bores, other improved parts like ARP hardware. Porsche will only reinstall Porsche parts and the most profitable car company in the word has a different agenda than the guy who is rebuilding a motor so he never deals with this failure again.
The PDK could be looked at differently since it's a complete assembly replacement, but doubt Porsche would have done anything for him on that either as he doesn't have the history with the dealership of a Doug H. I'll never have that type of history either as I don't see the value in buying a new Porsche especially since I like the older ones much better so I'd be (kind of am) in the same boat as bronz.
The PDK could be looked at differently since it's a complete assembly replacement, but doubt Porsche would have done anything for him on that either as he doesn't have the history with the dealership of a Doug H. I'll never have that type of history either as I don't see the value in buying a new Porsche especially since I like the older ones much better so I'd be (kind of am) in the same boat as bronz.
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Right there with you Bronz - my name dates me pretty badly. Part of what makes this forum great is the ability to learn from others. I want to thank you again for sharing this painful experience with everyone.
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What's considered "Young" on this Forum??
Less then 40?
30?
Less then 40?
30?
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it sits between driveshaft and transmission, its a rubber disc. @jeebus31 has it documented in his thread.
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Damn what an unusual fluke freak of nature double failure ... I feel your pain and distrust with the brand ...Porsche should really step up in cases as such and do what we in the industry call a policy adjust. In my industries standard policy due to the unit being out of warranty would be to supply the transmission at N/C or near cost and cust pays the install or 50/50 with the customer for the part and installation.
On a side note Only 24k for a Raby 4.0 count me in ...may just want one on the side in case mine ever pops !!
On a side note Only 24k for a Raby 4.0 count me in ...may just want one on the side in case mine ever pops !!
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I was your age when I got bit by Porsche bug and took the plunge. 20 years later and the fever for me has never subsided. Now at 49 yrs old I can not imagine feeling this passionate or dedicated to any other brand because it has become such a big part of my life over last 20 years. In my mind i am still "young" at heart, my wife actually says I have the mind of a 13 year old, and for now I have no plans or desires to switch to something else, but you never know what the next phase of life has in store! Most likely it will be another Porsche for me, but Keep us posted on your next moves!
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To me, it doesn't make any sense to go to the dealership for any 997 engine failure if you're out of warranty and not an established dealership customer. Yes, they may kick in a few thousand but they can't give you anything but the same thing that just failed for you, whereas going the Raby / LN route, you end up with something much better than what you started with - increased displacement, more durable piston and cylinder bores, other improved parts like ARP hardware. Porsche will only reinstall Porsche parts and the most profitable car company in the word has a different agenda than the guy who is rebuilding a motor so he never deals with this failure again.
The PDK could be looked at differently since it's a complete assembly replacement, but doubt Porsche would have done anything for him on that either as he doesn't have the history with the dealership of a Doug H. I'll never have that type of history either as I don't see the value in buying a new Porsche especially since I like the older ones much better so I'd be (kind of am) in the same boat as bronz.
The PDK could be looked at differently since it's a complete assembly replacement, but doubt Porsche would have done anything for him on that either as he doesn't have the history with the dealership of a Doug H. I'll never have that type of history either as I don't see the value in buying a new Porsche especially since I like the older ones much better so I'd be (kind of am) in the same boat as bronz.
This sounds a bit like contempt before investigation.
My only point is try through dealer channels. You can shooti that idea down for yourself without trying, but no sense in telling others not to try if you have never tried yourself.
I actually tbink youstand a better shot at getting some portion of the engine covered since it is higher priced.
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Well yeah its funny to see how everyone recommends finding a good Indy instead of going to the dealership all the time, but when something big happens everyone is quick to suggest that i should have been going to the dealer. In hindsight, a lot of things could have been done differently.. It is what it is at this point, you live and learn. I have a lot going on ahead of me and i will apply the knowledge i gain here in the future. Most of you probably dont know my age, but i might be one of the youngest members on this board....
You are young and sound very blessed! A screwed engine and transmission is nothing . . .
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Just curious who is doing the replacement. I'm not too far from you, so always looking for options
#150
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I hate this story. Especially since I have a '09 S with PDK. Makes me smile every time I take it out, but when I hear one of these I think......it's just a sometime toy. I could be pretty happy with that just right G50 Carrera coupe in Guards red. It's simple. It's a lot of fun (not as quick) and my best bud life long pal rebuilds these for collectors. White room tech back when Porsche dealers had such things for engine and transmission internal rebuilds. I was only 21 when got my first P car. New 914 first year out. That makes me 71. That car and pretty much ever series over the years has had a flaw or two that were pretty pricey for the time. At least consistent.
Sort of like cancer research but there is a really good PDK stickie at the top of the page. Sometime in here there will be a PDK rebuild guru guy like Barry Hart, Jake and Navarro. Just not yet.
Sort of like cancer research but there is a really good PDK stickie at the top of the page. Sometime in here there will be a PDK rebuild guru guy like Barry Hart, Jake and Navarro. Just not yet.
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