blockhed

I know of two people who had this happened, one at 23k miles the other at 45k miles. It seems to be random, unlike Dock's comments which are always obnoxious

Dock

The warranty is an issue, and not in terms warranty payments. It represents the type of use Porsche designed the car for.

You actually shopped at that level of inquiry?

As for metal-to-metal adhesives, there are products available that are more than up to the task.

They are guilty of a faulty design because of that?

horsepowerfarm

Dock you are very selective in your quote usage.

1) the car was designed to haul ***
2) my 42 years of Porsche ownership says, yes I do
3) Porsche made a poor choice for an adhesive
4) yes, they are guilty of questionable cooling system designs as I stated by model earlier

Dock

Designed to "haul ***"? Maybe? Designed and warrantied for track use? No.

Dock

Then why did you buy a 996 Turbo?

That has yet to be established.

horsepowerfarm

You are a broken record, and are not bringing anything new or productive to the discussion. Probably time to give it up, until you can provide something new in terms of information regarding coolant loss on a Porsche.
I tried to document the failure, that was something new that many owners had not seen or experienced. You are trolling, and I am finished with you.

jumper5836

He is a debate master. Not productive. Basically your turbo will last forever if your the original owner, never modified, never went over NA speed limit and god forbid even have driven it at track. I'm sure if we all followed his line, we would never encounter a issue.
I'm not sure Ferdinand Porsche would agree but he is entitled to his opinion even though it is pretty lame and can be comical all at the same time.

"02996ttx50

no, he isn't he's a guy that likes to take a contrary view anytime someone questions the design of some component of the 996 turbo. you must realize that arguing with a guy that says the spoiler malfunctions are not common, and might even be RARE is futile. what might that tell us!?

the truth is.. dock's car leaves his garage late at night to rendevous with a green lambo.. they run all night.. she gets put away wet..seemingly no worse for wear.. yet, happy wet and spent..

the neighbors know about it. so does dock. but in dock's eyes? she can do no wrong.

Dock

Some here are prone to exaggerations.

"02996ttx50

possibly. i don;t ( necessarily ) think the coolant loss is as common as these inquiries suggest. but i wouldn't go so far as to suggest there isn't a better way other than glue to affix coolant lines lol. only because porsche chose not to.

Dock

My exaggeration comment was not made with regard to the number of coolant pipe failure claims.

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I agree with you that the feedback here doesn't necessarily indicate the problem is widespread, or what the cause of the failures really is.

"02996ttx50

i didn't think it was but now i'm i wouldn't have concluded from reading your posts that you felt the number of claims was exaggerated. if anything, you seem to be saying that a claim against porsche might be beyond the pale in terms of their manufacturing liability given no defect has yet to have been proven, per se.

i have a hunch that the vast majority of these claims will have some incidences or history of tracking or sustained high engine temps/conditions. that seems to be a contributant, if not in fact a causal factor. so while their method of affixing the coolant lines may not have been the best ( or why else would pinning them exist as an option?! ) but that would hardly constitute the basis for an ongoing class action against them for the resultant damages. i don't think!? and the fact there is now an open investigation only means ( to me anyway ) that there have been enough complaints for some threshold to have been reached that might warrant a gov't "look".

i also don't feel the problem is "widespread" in spite of the "investigation". not iike, say,.. accumulators and spoilers problems have shown to be. but i'm not pinning any lines unless my engine's already out. but then?... for sure LOL

Dock

We have a winner.

F1CrazyDriver

To me, personally I believe it has to do with the bond they use.
I have taken my car to the track less than 20 times, zero issues. I do however drive my car on windy roads more, zero issues. My friend drives like an old person, yet he had the failure?????

It is most likely that I will have the failure per yours or docks statements yet, yet I have 95 k miles with no issues????

If it were to happen to me, it will most likely be on the twisty roads, heaven forbid something happens to me Porsche, because I do like to drive with Psm off.

In summation, their is no correlation with track use. If you can't see pass your nose then yes their is. I know a friend whom has a 996t, he post here, he has a coolant leak, he replaced the expansion tank, so I'm sure it's the coolant hose lose or leaking slowly. He dosent track.

F1CrazyDriver

Here is a list of people I personally know, and talk to on weekly basis. -

E- Tracks- No issue-95k - 2nd owner
G- Tracks- No issue-30k - 2nd owner
M - Tracks- No issue- 55k - 2nd owner
R- No track- Most likely coolant leaking from middle of engine- 35k - 2nd owner
R- No track- Failed- 23k - 1st owner