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yes, i'm sure porsche reads what porsche owners say about their cars, and "them".

but now they also probably read about ours last. thx to the 991

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only to add..i am biased only insofar as porsche has in both instances in which i needed them to..stepped up to the plate and honored their vehicles, possibly above and beyond. even if "customer loyalty" was a consideration, the possibility of which isn't to be discounted, that said something to me, at the time. this was back presumably when what i thought or did mattered.

jcb-memphis

A release went out to dealers saying after 2010 the glue was ok...suggesting to me that they knew about it and went out developing a fix for it.....NHTSA will know that too. Bingo....they have known for a long, long time.

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well then, armed with that info, i'd say the plot is indeed thickening, unlike their glue.

it is after all, usually not the crime, per se.. but the cover-up that gets ya. unless of course you're a government.

horsepowerfarm

I happen to be in the motorcycle business. Today, Triumph Motorcycles announced a recall effecting 279 bikes for a defect in the neutral safety switch (indicator showed a false neutral). It really does not take very many complaints from consumers for our government agencies to react.

The point of all this discussion is that an investigation is already in place, and the chips are going to fall. It is not up to the debtaters on this forum. The decision will be made by people that hopefully have no dog in the fight, and will weigh all the data they have accumulated in a fair manner.

I am comfortable with what ever decision is made.

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i have no dog in the fight either. i do however, have a mint condition 1966 tr6sr triumph tt motorcycle. there is no glue on or in it. so much for progress, eh?

Dock

Do you have a copy of the release that you can post here?

horsepowerfarm

Sorry to go off thread, FABULOUS motorcycle, if you need a restoration please let me put it along side the Rickman 650 Desert Sled I'm about to start the restoring. There is some glue in the Rickman!

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i would KILL ( well.. almost!! ) for a rickman metisse frame. blue tank w flag on tank! in fact, extra glue woud be ok too mine's got all the period stuff. in fact i just blasted it at dusk few mins ago! neighbors love me.

but good on ya mate. if you need anyone to testify on your behalf at the nhtsb coolant awards. i'm your guy lol. also.. 42 years owning porsche's?! i got my first 911 ride in '65, but hey..

again, as i said upthread. sorry for your personal coolant loss. really.

horsepowerfarm

Three sets of original bodywork for this Rickman, red TT, blue MX, green Scramble. I'm so damn excited to restore a factory race bike with tons of provenance, I can't wait to go to my shop in the morning. Thanks for caring about the coolant loss. It really is not that important. Bull**** engineering in a Supercar is not acceptable. If I restored your lovely Triumph and did not do a proper job , I would expect you to call me out and to do it right with out regard to the original engineering. That is the way that I run my little business. Porsche may run theirs differently, they will never have to worry about my customer loyalty. I just love the damn cars.

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if memory serves? the blue mx is the scrambler up pipes? that's it. mine's w factory tt pipes now per oem. more so flattracker, than proper tt. if you have a rickman frame lying around lol.. and the body bits. uh oh..

this conversation never happened

Gofishracing

here is original demand from NHTSA to PNA.

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so, once this inquiry establishes porsche was ( if ) aware of the potential for this to occur, "pre failures".. is everyone then entitled to get retroactively refitted coolant pipes? how's that work? has anyone ever experienced or been a party to a recall on ten year old cars? 01's thru '07's gotta be an awful lot of coolant hoses.

jcb-memphis

https://rennlist.com/forums/9327001-post209.html

I think I misunderstood: the data came out of OH PCA and their research on the issues. They stand as, in my mind, the most rigorous on this subject as they had a really bad accident caused by this issue at Mid-Ohio. Perhaps multiple. And they acted on it in a way that may have not be popular, but was right.

If I were the NHTSA, I'd get to the bottom of the improvements Porsche made and the "why" and bingo, proof they knew there is/was a problem..

Done. Porsche knew and acted upon it. Why change the fittings if they were fine....>



NHTSA has a lot of things to work with here and should likely get us all safety fixes. In the end, that is the only thing that matters, keeping us safe.

Dock

That doesn't appear to be the release Porsche sent its dealers. Additionally, what was written in the post you linked did not say that Porsche had stated that after 2010 the glue was OK.