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Old 10-10-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 5CHN3LL
^ Yup, same question here. Seems like PNA should have been on the hook for the diagnosis and subsequent remediation, given what the diagnosis revealed.
I think if it failed and was sent back to Porsche it would have been covered. Who knows how long it would have taken to fail though and some people don't drive enough. That is a big mistake that Porsche let go out the door. Really saddens me that their production has dropped to this level. I guess they are too busy building Cayennes.
Old 10-10-2013, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
All the damage in 4k because of a missing o-ring. This is insane...
Ever drank a milkahake with a broken straw??.... This is the same thing.
Old 10-10-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Ever drank a milkahake with a broken straw??.... This is the same thing.
Good analogy
Old 10-10-2013, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ahsai
Good analogy
Better analogy is to use water as you can easily drink milkshake with a broken straw.
Old 10-10-2013, 08:12 PM
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My Car just came back from Jakes. Say what you want, I have experienced the man and his service. Absolute first rate. I've been around performance shops for a very long time and this man and his shop went out of their way by far to impress and satisfy me. Speaking of warrantee I wouldn't warrantee any part of the M96 engine. If he rebuilds it he knows it is put together and modified the way it should be and then he will cover it. I wouldn't do it any other way myself. Obviously you are doing it right Jake, your reputation and track record speaks for itself.
Old 10-10-2013, 08:54 PM
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^^^ Missing the point.^^^
Old 10-10-2013, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
^^^ Missing the point.^^^
Stating his direct, first hand experience. Missing the point or not, (and whether you like it, or not) its his opinion, based on his direct experience. Not hearsay, speculation, or vaporware.

I know you hate to hear these success stories, and you can't wait till I do have that one guy that can't be pleased and becomes vocal. You'll capitalize on that and trust me, I will be ready.
Old 10-11-2013, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Stating his direct, first hand experience. Missing the point or not, (and whether you like it, or not) its his opinion, based on his direct experience. Not hearsay, speculation, or vaporware.

I know you hate to hear these success stories, and you can't wait till I do have that one guy that can't be pleased and becomes vocal. You'll capitalize on that and trust me, I will be ready.
I don't think you get the point either. No one that I know questions your ability to build an engine. That was never in dispute. You charge a premium for a good product. If money is no object you are a good choice.

The issues are your marketing techniques. That is all.
Old 10-11-2013, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Stating his direct, first hand experience. Missing the point or not, (and whether you like it, or not) its his opinion, based on his direct experience. Not hearsay, speculation, or vaporware.

I know you hate to hear these success stories, and you can't wait till I do have that one guy that can't be pleased and becomes vocal. You'll capitalize on that and trust me, I will be ready.
Now you are missing the point too.
Old 10-11-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
Now you are missing the point too.
Perhaps your ability to convey the point is just as lousy as our ability to perceive it. So what is "the point"?

From what I can tell, you and the gaugeman are like two peas in a pod.
Old 10-11-2013, 11:08 AM
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It always amazes me when people downgrade the efforts of professionals. I have come to the conclusion that most people cannot tell the difference. In the car repair business their are the 5% ers, these are the people that have the training, experience and gift that make them stand out above the rest. I interview and hired a lot of technicians in my 30 years in the business, 45% are good line mechanics, 50 % should find another line of work and 5% are hands down above the rest. I have never met Jake,but I know he is in the 5% he is not one to take fools lightly and is confident in his ability's. His business model offers him a unique position that most shops don't have the time for, he can delve into the root cause of problems and not just effect a repair.
Don't confuse his advice with all the opinions that are thrown about.
This approach does not fit all customers, but it also avoids misunderstandings.
Old 10-11-2013, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Flat6 Innovations
Perhaps your ability to convey the point is just as lousy as our ability to perceive it. So what is "the point"?

From what I can tell, you and the gaugeman are like two peas in a pod.
Very rarely is my point not conveyed clearly. My perception is quite accurate as well.
Old 10-11-2013, 11:51 AM
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This whole thread is a joke.

"Hey! I had the same idea for a revised bearing before you and scratched it out on a table napkin with my 3 best buds!"

Yeah, who gives a flying f*ck!

Jake provides solutions. pure and simple. Don't like them. don't use them. Don't like his marketing (what you call scare tactics), choose to ignore him. This is a public forum. Everyone had an opinion.

If Jake's engine reconstruction was $5k he would never see his family as he would be busy clear into the next decade.
Old 10-11-2013, 12:50 PM
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I've had ideas for products that have hit the market years later. The couple of times I've seen it, I recognize that this is the cost of being too busy/lazy/whatever. History provides plenty of examples of simultaneous development/invention. The guys like Edison and Westinghouse, who are both brilliant and hard-working enough to ensure they capitalize their inventions, are the ones that go down in the history books. The guys who scribble ideas on napkins are lucky to get a footnote.
Old 10-11-2013, 01:15 PM
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Beating your chest and repeting that if I didn't invent this or that, and then saying everyone should be thankfull otherwise these engines would not be around is an interesting concept. THEN when others say they had the same idea (and can prove it without a doubdt) before this product was anounce, throws a wrench in Jake's god complex point of view, all hell breaks loose. When I asked if he didn't come up with the idea means that no one ever would, it resulted in silence. How gives a $hit??? Gearheads like me do.


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