Porschetech3

Yes, the UIDS v3.0 is not a thin cast aluminum sump plate, It is a thick solid billet aluminum machined with ribs and is as robust as an Aluminum Tank !! It is thicker than any part on the engine and I believe the motor mounts or bell housing will break before the UIDS will have any structural damage, just cosmetic superficial damage.

That test was purely accidental, but now I'm glad it happened !!

Yes , the UIDS is doing exactly as we had envisioned, and has met our goals. Here is a drawing that shows why the UIDS is superior to ANY sump with a center located pick-up tube.

The green horizontal line is the normal oil fill when engine has been at rest for 12 hours.

The red horizontal line is the nominal oil fill while engine is running..

The red triangular area is the oil fill when near 1G left hand turn.

The red "X"s is where the pick-ups are for a stock sump, a deep sump, and the UIDS. You can see the stock location is already starting to suck air, the deep sump is just a little better but is so near the surface level of the oil that any increase in areation or foam will start to suck in air bubbles. The UIDS is deep in the available oil where the best ( less aerated) oil is.The deeper the pick-up, the better. It takes 10 seconds for synthetic oil to reside to un-aerate..


Yes, track testing on a really fast street car or race car will be done just to confirm what I already know !!!


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3/98 911 coupe

It was cool 😎 that the sump plate survived. Almost indestructible. Does my car has 4 oxygen sensors or two. I believe it’s two. Anyway, we are going to put in the fab speed x pipe and what’s wondering if I need to install the mini cats to avoid CELS. Thanks.

jobyt

You have 4 O2 sensors, 2 pre cat and 2 post cat. You'll need ¾" extenders from FabSpeed to avoid O2 sensor faults.

3/98 911 coupe

I’m getting it with the mini cats so that should be good. Thanks.

GC996

Skip, looks good. Let us know what you need from all of us to test it and get it on the market.

Porschetech3

Hi Glen, as far as I'm concerned personally the UIDS is ready to go!!

George wants some more miles on it, but I have put many on the V2.2 and everything is just fine, and the v3.0 is even more robust..

And the track time would be nice just for confirmation. We need someone with a fast car ( 1G or more) that has already gotten proof that they are having oil pressure drops (recorded), and can install the UIDS and record the AFTER install and show the difference. Zbomb was set to do this, but they are now Snowed in with no Tracks open untill Spring, so would need to be someone in SoCal or Florida..

Also George and I had talked about O-ringing the whole UIDS so no Silicone sealer would be necessary, I'm all for that, right now its like every one elses sump, apply Silicone as needed...lol

Speaking about the difference between the V2.2 and V3.0,
The v2.2 is very robust and works well but has limitations. It gets much respect in that the internal ball valve was used in Acobatic Airplanes.
In fine tuning the v2.2 can be done with limitations in the size/weight of the *****. The size is limited to some degree by the size of the port. The weight of the ***** can be changed by using different metals. Many different metals can be used, Titanium being the lightest, Carbon Steel being the middle ground, and Tungsten being the heaviest. I had also tested with various viscosity oil from 0w-40 to 5w-50 and temerature from 70F to 275F.. The viscosity has a big effect on the v2.2 when the oil flow is high due to the Bernoulli Principal. The Bernoulli Principal is what happens at NASCAR races at Talladega in the Draft, ( also what make wings lift and curve ***** curve)). On the v2.2 the Bernoulli Princiapl was pulling on the walls of the port and more so on the ball that was closed (now being used as a wall) than on the ball that was open. The open ball had some suction on it but not much. I proved all this by using a manometer with three ports in the bottom of the UIDS. One center and one left and right. This was making tuning difficult as one weight ball would work best at a certain engine speed(oil flow) and Temperature ( viscosity) but a different weight ball would be best for the opposite engine speed and temperature. While studying these problems associated to weight/viscosity/Bernoulli Principal, we came up with v3.0 !!

The V3.0 design moves the weight/ball/roller outside the walls.The valve is actually part of the walls on both sides, so no matter which side is closed or open, they both see the same slight suction. This made tuning a piece of cake !! Also moving the rolling weight outside it is designed to be not effected by debris. It also can be made longer or shorter/thinner to change weight. The v3.0 also picked up 20% more flow ( not that it needed it). V3.0 is also even more robust.


You guys are the market, so show George that you guys approve, and let him know that you are ready !!!!

Fishah

This is immensely exciting. Been such a joy to watch this progress.

Has there ever been a mention of a rough price target for this?

I know I know... If you have to ask....

EVOMMM

George I’m ready when you’re ready I believe in your product even more so after chip crash tested it
Mike

plpete84

Fantastic update, Skip. Thanks so much for sharing all this progress and visuals to help noobs like myself understand what's happening! It seems like you pretty much have a finished product on your hands as far as use on canyons/back roads and probably some noob track work. That said, I'm sure doing a track day or two will further validate what you created so folks like zbomb and other track dudes that push their car very hard will be able to turn quicker laps not having to worry about lubrication issues. Well done and look forward to putting our money where our mouth is and supporting this work!

Tbred911

Glad to hear your better Skip! what a great invention - can't wait for some track data but regardless it looks like the best option out there and it will do it's job

george_west

I think we need as much testing as possible. Skip and I aren't capable of the type of testing necessary to show that the UIDS works in the most extreme conditions. I think the best solution is a short run of UIDS, maybe 3-5 units, and get them in the hands of capable drivers. More cars/drivers=more testing in less time. If we have to wait until spring, so be it. Can't rush this.

3/98 911 coupe

I agree with you. Get those prototypes in the best hands people that are really going to abuse their cars, Zbomb (Jason) comes to mind.

sdematt

Sorry if it was listed before - what's the actual increase in oil capacity with this unit?

In addition, when are we thinking these will start going out for production?

-Matt

996clubsport

My new engine build is ready as well

3/98 911 coupe

I believe skip (Porsche Tech 3) said a bit over half a quart. It’s not only the capacity it’s the additional cooling and better yet no significant oil pressure drops on high g circumstances. If you are planning to track your car, this is definitely most to have.