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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GC996
Why buy a new McLaren for 1 mil when you can buy a new GT3 RS or GT2 RS for a percentage of the cost of the McClaren, and get the same performance with more durability. A good buddy went thru this same excercise after the McClaren spend most of its ownership in the shop. The GT3 RS did not.
Personal preference? If you have the money, who cares?

I probably see a 911 every other day, and a 996 at least once a week.and I don't live in a major metropolitan area. The 996 is not rare at all if you put it into a comparison with it's contemporaries (FD, MKIV TT, DB7/9, etc).
Old 06-23-2021 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
Recent thread here now begs an interesting comparison:

964 is to 993, as 996 is to 997

Ugky duckling panned by so-called “experts”, but loved by drivers. Is quickly replaced by larger, heavier, and nominally more powerful, but arguably less loved “retro” design.

I just saw this. Striking how past Porsches repeat themselves.
This comparison is spot-on IMO. The 997 does absolutely nothing for me aesthetically. I'd rather have an early 991.
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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by brontosaurus
Personal preference? If you have the money, who cares?

I probably see a 911 every other day, and a 996 at least once a week.and I don't live in a major metropolitan area. The 996 is not rare at all if you put it into a comparison with it's contemporaries (FD, MKIV TT, DB7/9, etc).
Absolutely agree on personal preference.

Never said the 996 Carerra is rare. Because it isn't. Second most number of units produced with the 997 winning top honors. But it is becoming a sought after sports car. But let's repeat so everyone understands. The 996 Carerra is not rare nor is it an exotic.
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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:23 AM
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True, this means there are still hidden gem bargain 996’s out there. As long as there is hate, there is another 996 bargain to be had. Somewhere.

Only a few short years until 996 is just another halcyon in the pantheon of Classic 911 untouchables.

That will be a sad day indeed, because there’s no ugly duckling growing up behind it. Just a hundred million more $200K Chinese plastic “Autostart” supercars.

We are now witnessing the tail end (IE death) of Ferry Porsche’s 911 era.



Originally Posted by philbert996
It’s nice to hear from people who still look down on the 996.
A viewpoint shared by a majority of 911 owners.

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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by brontosaurus

I probably see a 911 every other day, and a 996 at least once a week.and I don't live in a major metropolitan area.
I see more McLarens than 996s on the road.
At least one a week.
But I can’t tell you what model they are since they all look the same to me.

But we can agree that a McLaren is neither rare or exotic.
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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by philbert996
I see more McLarens than 996s on the road.
At least one a week.
But I can’t tell you what model they are since they all look the same to me.

But we can agree that a McLaren is neither rare or exotic.

Hah! 😂😂😂
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Originally Posted by philbert996
I see more McLarens than 996s on the road.
At least one a week.
But I can’t tell you what model they are since they all look the same to me.

But we can agree that a McLaren is neither rare or exotic.
If you want to continue being butthurt, that's fine with me, but at least stop with the bad-faith arguments. There are less McLarens in the world than 1 year of peak 996 production (well, at least as of a couple years ago, who knows now).
Old 06-23-2021 | 11:50 AM
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You forget that 991 production numbers actually exceeded 997 by over 30%. And 992 is on track to FAR exceed 991!

Thus by todays global manufacturing standards, 996 production two decades ago was indeed “rare”, IE 996 totals were only a fraction of current 911 production. Circa 2020’s China allotments alone demonstrate this.

Originally Posted by GC996
Second most number of units produced with the 997 winning top honors.

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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
You forget that 991 production numbers actually exceeded 997 by over 30%. And 992 is on track to FAR exceed 991!

Thus by todays global manufacturing standards, 996 production two decades ago was indeed “rare”, IE only a small fraction of current 911 production. Circa 2020’s China allotments alone demonstrates this.
I stand corrected. 😁

The 996 is now rare in relation to the 997, 991, 992 but not McClaren.

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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
You forget that 991 production numbers actually exceeded 997 by over 30%. And 992 is on track to FAR exceed 991!

Thus by todays global manufacturing standards, 996 production two decades ago was indeed “rare”, IE only a small fraction of current 911 production. Circa 2020’s China allotments alone demonstrate this.
Not to mention the thousands that had detonated IMSB's and bore scored engines, thus reducing the number of what's on the road from original production numbers. I mean, those two issues alone has probably dropped road functioning 996's to a mere couple hundred.
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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:56 AM
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This is def true in DC Metro for sure. I see McLarens every day. Only 996’s I really ever see anymore are in my own garage. 🥺


Originally Posted by philbert996
I see more McLarens than 996s on the road.
At least one a week.

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Old 06-23-2021 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bdronsick
This is def true in Wash Metro for sure. I see McLarens every day. Only 996’s I really ever see anymore are in my own garage.
Rumor has it that they buy 2 McClarens after exercising stock options. That way they can switch off every week when it breaks down. Is that a true rumor?
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Old 06-23-2021 | 12:06 PM
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Then I should have bought two 993’s


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Rumor has it that they buy 2 McClarens after exercising stock options. That way they can switch off every week when it breaks down. Is that a true rumor?
Old 06-23-2021 | 12:09 PM
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Hah! Just having some fun. To all 996 owners, be proud, you have an awesome car.
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Old 06-23-2021 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by brontosaurus
If you want to continue being butthurt, that's fine with me, but at least stop with the bad-faith arguments.
Honestly, I’m not butthurt.
Unfortunately there isn’t a sarcasm font that’s needed for most of my post.

I think your perspective is needed to stop this from becoming an echo-chamber.


IMO all 911s are semi-exotic 🤷‍♂️

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