Prices Keep Drifting Up
#211
I’m glad I bought my C2 at $15k. I was shopping for other models, but the 996 prices were too good to pass up. Now, I couldn’t imagine not having a 996. Even if I get another 911, I’m likely keeping this one forever.
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#212
When I made the decision to sell the car, I was definitely thinking about replacing it with a classic muscle car. Just don’t think a 911 fits in out in coastal NC, with nothing but straight roads it’s hard to justify having one there. However, the connection I feel to the car and how well it’s suited my family, I really don’t know if there’s more fun a youngish family of four can have with an automobile.
#213
Thanks brother, really appreciate that. As I’m giving the car one last detail this afternoon I’m truly hoping I haven’t pushed myself out of the 911 market. Fingers crossed everything goes smooth with the our home being built, we don’t run into any unforeseen circumstances and the P car market doesn’t go bonkers over the next year.
When I made the decision to sell the car, I was definitely thinking about replacing it with a classic muscle car. Just don’t think a 911 fits in out in coastal NC, with nothing but straight roads it’s hard to justify having one there. However, the connection I feel to the car and how well it’s suited my family, I really don’t know if there’s more fun a youngish family of four can have with an automobile.
When I made the decision to sell the car, I was definitely thinking about replacing it with a classic muscle car. Just don’t think a 911 fits in out in coastal NC, with nothing but straight roads it’s hard to justify having one there. However, the connection I feel to the car and how well it’s suited my family, I really don’t know if there’s more fun a youngish family of four can have with an automobile.
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#214
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Speaking of prices, I thankfully managed to pick up a 996 GT3 for $67k just a bit ago. It really feels like the door is slamming shut on the prices of the mid 2010s.
#216
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While of course there are exceptionis, asking prices on the SFBA Craigslist for later model 996 Cabs have moved up into the $25-30k range.
Still want to sell my 2000 C4 Cab and will be re-listing it shortly at $25k. Will be happy if I can get that price for it.
Still want to sell my 2000 C4 Cab and will be re-listing it shortly at $25k. Will be happy if I can get that price for it.
#217
I may want to sell my Targa soon. What's the best way to determine an approximate price?
#218
https://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/...praisal-value/
Targa for sale on BAT 2K miles.. Targa high water mark?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...e-911-targa-4/
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Gingerman (04-06-2021)
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Here is the cool thing. The gas powered porsche's we own aren't going away. While the rage is electric motors, the reality is that they are not practical as of yet due to lack of battery/energy storage, distance limitations and lack of charging stations. Yes this will change someday as infrastructure is built and we figure out the future of transportation. In the mean time, as more electric cars are sold as a percentage of all new sales, the novelty of a gas powered car will become more "collectible" . Not Honda's and Toyota's, but the Porsche 911.
For those that think "gas" will go away, think again. It may not be petroleum based, but it will be "gas" nevertheless. When you get the chance, Google Porsche efuel. You will read all about Porsche teaming up with Siemens, Exxon and a few other companies in South America to develop environmentally friendly bio fuel to run "gas" powered cars. They have been chewing on F1's ear about making this part of the 2025 requirements. Wait till they use this technology to create a "true" environmentally friendly hybrid engine that gets 100 miles to the gallon without a footprint. Why would you want an 100% electric car that only get 300 miles when you can have an environmentally friendly hybrid Taycan that can drive forever on a tank of bio fuel.
In the meantime, our cars go up in value because demand continues to rise, and will accelerate once Porsche and other companies have a finished bio fuel product to power it.
We live in incredible times. If you haven't already, better buy a 996 before they are too damn expensive.
For those that think "gas" will go away, think again. It may not be petroleum based, but it will be "gas" nevertheless. When you get the chance, Google Porsche efuel. You will read all about Porsche teaming up with Siemens, Exxon and a few other companies in South America to develop environmentally friendly bio fuel to run "gas" powered cars. They have been chewing on F1's ear about making this part of the 2025 requirements. Wait till they use this technology to create a "true" environmentally friendly hybrid engine that gets 100 miles to the gallon without a footprint. Why would you want an 100% electric car that only get 300 miles when you can have an environmentally friendly hybrid Taycan that can drive forever on a tank of bio fuel.
In the meantime, our cars go up in value because demand continues to rise, and will accelerate once Porsche and other companies have a finished bio fuel product to power it.
We live in incredible times. If you haven't already, better buy a 996 before they are too damn expensive.
Folks, more positive news from Porsche that will help to create a tailwind for our classic petroleum powered cars. Looks like Porsche is ahead of schedule with the development of their biofuel project. They will be testing the fuel in upcoming CUP races. AS we all know, Porsche doesn't like to do anything unless they believe it will be a success. Looks like electric powered cars aren't the only power source of the future after all.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1131774_porsche-testing-synthetic-fuel-in-race-conditions
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Wow, you're not kidding about the Cars and Bids prices. There are some bargains over there compared to what's been happening on BaT.
#224
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Folks, more positive news from Porsche that will help to create a tailwind for our classic petroleum powered cars. Looks like Porsche is ahead of schedule with the development of their biofuel project. They will be testing the fuel in upcoming CUP races. AS we all know, Porsche doesn't like to do anything unless they believe it will be a success. Looks like electric powered cars aren't the only power source of the future after all.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1131774_porsche-testing-synthetic-fuel-in-race-conditions
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1131774_porsche-testing-synthetic-fuel-in-race-conditions
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The bio/synthetic fuel will be interesting. It's inevitable.
There are too many combustion engines in the world to go away for only 250 miles per charge on an electric car. Eventually the environmentalists will realize that damage is being done while mining for lithium and other elements (and supply constraints) to build batteries that are inadequate in storing energy and negatively effecting the environment in non-carbon ways. The evolution of technology always has unintended consequences good and bad.
I suspect Jake at FSI is watching it as well. Big test will be in the Cup series and what they find. Porsche is soliciting F1 to adopt it in 2025. But to your point, who knows what it will do to the engines. More bore scoring, same bore scoring, or less. Will Jake's new technology for the bores address it?
Only time will tell. But the reality is that over time, everything advances. To me, there is NOTHING appealing about driving around an electric car. I prefer to drive my 996 around with the windows down and the radio off to hear the engine, intake and exhaust. If you give me the option to keep driving my car around with bio fuel, even if I have to get the engine rebuilt a little sooner, with an added bonus of being carbon neutral, I'll take the combustion engine or a hybrid any day over an electric engine that sounds like a slot car.
But the beautiful thing about the world is that we all have different preferences. Biofuel gives us options.
As a side note, Chris Harris just did an interview on top gear about this very topic over the past day or two that everyone may find of interest.
There are too many combustion engines in the world to go away for only 250 miles per charge on an electric car. Eventually the environmentalists will realize that damage is being done while mining for lithium and other elements (and supply constraints) to build batteries that are inadequate in storing energy and negatively effecting the environment in non-carbon ways. The evolution of technology always has unintended consequences good and bad.
I suspect Jake at FSI is watching it as well. Big test will be in the Cup series and what they find. Porsche is soliciting F1 to adopt it in 2025. But to your point, who knows what it will do to the engines. More bore scoring, same bore scoring, or less. Will Jake's new technology for the bores address it?
Only time will tell. But the reality is that over time, everything advances. To me, there is NOTHING appealing about driving around an electric car. I prefer to drive my 996 around with the windows down and the radio off to hear the engine, intake and exhaust. If you give me the option to keep driving my car around with bio fuel, even if I have to get the engine rebuilt a little sooner, with an added bonus of being carbon neutral, I'll take the combustion engine or a hybrid any day over an electric engine that sounds like a slot car.
But the beautiful thing about the world is that we all have different preferences. Biofuel gives us options.
As a side note, Chris Harris just did an interview on top gear about this very topic over the past day or two that everyone may find of interest.
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